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Hello all! First Post
Hey everyone, I own a 2006 Jaguar X-type 3.0 sport.
This car has been a joy to own over these past few months as it is my first Jaguar, as well as my first car.
The aesthetic of this vehicle I feel is misunderstood, and I just believe these vehicles are totally undervalued.
Personally, I am not a handyman. So I can not perform any maintenance this car is requiring. But I need an opinion on whether or not this vehicle is worth the money I may throw at it.
The headliner needs entirely refurbished (headliner, A/C pillars, sunroof etc). It also needs some few small cosmetic repairs.
The main problem I have with the vehicle that is questioning me to keep it or not is the FAN PROBLEM!
The fan in this car that cools the engine has been frustrating through my entire ownership. I have replaced the FCM twice, and have even tried swapping the ECM only causing further issues, so I switched it back. The car is now finally running the fan intermittently, instead of a constant high speed after changing the FCM. But now… the car will gradually overheat when I put the thing in idle for too long when the fan decides to stop running.
The car can be frustrating. As much as I love it, I just can’t continue much longer with this overheating issue. Any suggestions, on how I can fix my problem, or who I can contact?
thank you for taking the time to read!
Is my car worth the trouble?
This car has been a joy to own over these past few months as it is my first Jaguar, as well as my first car.
The aesthetic of this vehicle I feel is misunderstood, and I just believe these vehicles are totally undervalued.
Personally, I am not a handyman. So I can not perform any maintenance this car is requiring. But I need an opinion on whether or not this vehicle is worth the money I may throw at it.
The headliner needs entirely refurbished (headliner, A/C pillars, sunroof etc). It also needs some few small cosmetic repairs.
The main problem I have with the vehicle that is questioning me to keep it or not is the FAN PROBLEM!
The fan in this car that cools the engine has been frustrating through my entire ownership. I have replaced the FCM twice, and have even tried swapping the ECM only causing further issues, so I switched it back. The car is now finally running the fan intermittently, instead of a constant high speed after changing the FCM. But now… the car will gradually overheat when I put the thing in idle for too long when the fan decides to stop running.
The car can be frustrating. As much as I love it, I just can’t continue much longer with this overheating issue. Any suggestions, on how I can fix my problem, or who I can contact?
thank you for taking the time to read!
Is my car worth the trouble?
If you bought and used the cheaper internet Asian Fan Control Module (FCM), that is your problem. Do a search in this forum on " why cheap Asian fan controllers do not work" and my name for an explanation and the correct module to buy. Quite a few folks have argued the point, finally gave in and bought the correct one, and VOILA! the fans work as they are supposed to.
Now another question for you sir,
Where can I go about buying one of these FCM’s with absolute certainty that it is the proper part for my car?
I have looked tirelessly at different options and have even gone as far as making sure they look exactly alike.
like a said before I am not very familiar with how this kind of thing works, but I’m trying to figure it out!
Where can I go about buying one of these FCM’s with absolute certainty that it is the proper part for my car?
I have looked tirelessly at different options and have even gone as far as making sure they look exactly alike.
like a said before I am not very familiar with how this kind of thing works, but I’m trying to figure it out!
https://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/20...an_module.html
The other option is reach out to member Dr Dome of this forum. He parts out x's and that's where I bought mine from (IF he has one). Mine ended up being a 2009 (I have a 2006 as well) as it must have been dealer replaced before Dr Dome got his hands on the car. A happy plus for me.
As for testing the fans, start the car cold with all electronics and climate turned completely off. Lift the hood and the fans should be dead stopped (thus a cold car start). Now get in car turn A/C to full max and as cold a setting available. Look at the fans and both should be running at full speed.
The other option is reach out to member Dr Dome of this forum. He parts out x's and that's where I bought mine from (IF he has one). Mine ended up being a 2009 (I have a 2006 as well) as it must have been dealer replaced before Dr Dome got his hands on the car. A happy plus for me.
As for testing the fans, start the car cold with all electronics and climate turned completely off. Lift the hood and the fans should be dead stopped (thus a cold car start). Now get in car turn A/C to full max and as cold a setting available. Look at the fans and both should be running at full speed.
Last edited by Dell Gailey; May 4, 2023 at 11:02 PM.
Another thing I would like to add to give further explanation to my issue is that this FCM that currently is in my X-type has a 4-pin receiver.
it wasn’t cheap per say, but I also am unsure if it was exactly what I needed. The shipping of the part busted it up a bit as well.
Now my fan does not run constantly, but I feel that it does shut off when I truly need it the most as you had said in your post. Sometimes it doesn’t turn on at all when my vehicle starts, especially when outside temps are hot. Also it will decide to just shut off when the vehicle is sitting long enough as well.
I want to make a good purchase that will give my car new life. If it is expensive so be it, I just want the damn car to run like a jag!!
thanks again.
it wasn’t cheap per say, but I also am unsure if it was exactly what I needed. The shipping of the part busted it up a bit as well.
Now my fan does not run constantly, but I feel that it does shut off when I truly need it the most as you had said in your post. Sometimes it doesn’t turn on at all when my vehicle starts, especially when outside temps are hot. Also it will decide to just shut off when the vehicle is sitting long enough as well.
I want to make a good purchase that will give my car new life. If it is expensive so be it, I just want the damn car to run like a jag!!
thanks again.
The problem is the Asian ones have a 4 pin receptacle it's just one of then is a blank with incorrect wiring on the other 3. In other words looking at the female receptacle one will not have any metal showing that the plug is supposed to use. There are pics in my post as well as the absolute correct part number Gates model.
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Mr_M, the fan on your car is not supposed to run any time the car is running. The concept behind the fan is that when the motor is cold, the fan should be off. Only when the motor gets above the high temperature point (202F as I recall) does the fan kick on, and then only at a minimum speed. If the temperature rises slightly more, the fan then moves up to a higher speed. The exception to this rule is the A/C for the car. Now, keep in mind that the A/C is used when you are using it to cool the passenger compartment, but also when you are using the defrost (it helps remove the moisture from the air, allowing the defroster to work more efficiently). With the A/C, the car calculates the amount of cooling the A/C system is doing and regulates the fan to match the amount of cooling needed to the condenser (the "radiator portion of the A/C system"). So, as you demand more cooling, the fans will spin faster. Hence why Dell's check works.
Getting back to your problem with the car overheating while at idle, that may be your water pump, not so much the fans. So, that may be something you want to investigate. Replacing the water pump on this car is a good beginners task (unlike a lot of other vehicles). It is pretty straight forward and requires minimal disassembly of the car to do. Yes, it will probably take you 3 hours to do (because it is your first time), you will see how easy a lot of this stuff is. No special tools are needed. Just a wrench set, a socket set, some gasket maker, and a water pump assembly. Having a scouring pad (aka, greenie pad) is helpful too to clean up the surfaces to ensure you get a good surface for the gasket maker to seal against. You will need a collection pan and some new coolant too as you will be draining the coolant system to do the job. It sounds intimidating, but trust me, with a little help from a motorhead friend, you can do this.
If you have a desire to learn about working on cars, I would tell you to find a friend who is a motor head. Offer him a six pack of his favorite beer to help you out occasionally. If it takes a long time, then get him a 12 pack. This is cheap help and you will gain a lot of familiarity with the car. Nothing is really special on the X-Type. Sure there are a few quirks about the car (kinda like the water pump, but this is actually for the good of things). But, most things can be done right in the driveway with common tools (just make sure they are metric, not SAE). If you have a problem you want to attempt, we can give you some pointers too.
Getting back to your problem with the car overheating while at idle, that may be your water pump, not so much the fans. So, that may be something you want to investigate. Replacing the water pump on this car is a good beginners task (unlike a lot of other vehicles). It is pretty straight forward and requires minimal disassembly of the car to do. Yes, it will probably take you 3 hours to do (because it is your first time), you will see how easy a lot of this stuff is. No special tools are needed. Just a wrench set, a socket set, some gasket maker, and a water pump assembly. Having a scouring pad (aka, greenie pad) is helpful too to clean up the surfaces to ensure you get a good surface for the gasket maker to seal against. You will need a collection pan and some new coolant too as you will be draining the coolant system to do the job. It sounds intimidating, but trust me, with a little help from a motorhead friend, you can do this.
If you have a desire to learn about working on cars, I would tell you to find a friend who is a motor head. Offer him a six pack of his favorite beer to help you out occasionally. If it takes a long time, then get him a 12 pack. This is cheap help and you will gain a lot of familiarity with the car. Nothing is really special on the X-Type. Sure there are a few quirks about the car (kinda like the water pump, but this is actually for the good of things). But, most things can be done right in the driveway with common tools (just make sure they are metric, not SAE). If you have a problem you want to attempt, we can give you some pointers too.
Thank you very much friend!
I will take the generous advice given to me by all of you and attempt a home renovation for the mechanics of my vehicle. I will be giving this car the attention it deserves , and I’ll be in here a lot more asking some questions LOL
thanks guys👍
I will take the generous advice given to me by all of you and attempt a home renovation for the mechanics of my vehicle. I will be giving this car the attention it deserves , and I’ll be in here a lot more asking some questions LOL
thanks guys👍
Mr M, if you don't mind a bit of a drive, I live about 3 hours south of you. Come on down and we can get you taken care of. I used to have an X-Type and can make my way around the car quite well. If you need someone to bounce some ideas off of, PM me and I will give you my phone number and I can atleast be there in spirit and give you some guidance in real time. I would almost say to replace the water pump just because. If for no other reason, replacing a water pump on this car is so easy, it is a good first time project to take on (barring having a bolt break on you). replacing a water pump on this car is super simple, not like on other motors. Your symptoms kinda point to a bad water pump. You can do a pump and coolant for around $60.as I recall. You may read some stories about how there is a funky "burping" procedure for the X-Type. Do not worry about that. Fill the car up and once it is up at temp, rev the engine a few times and it will burp itself. But, again, I can help you through it.
Larry, I have not owned an X-Type in years (7+). I bought an XJ a long time ago and I just recently got rid of that XJ and got an XJL. I am telling you, for what they are selling XJ's for right now, do it!!!!!! I bought a 2016 XJL Portfolio (V6, AWD) with 73K miles on the ODO with a lot of the bells and whistles for $26K. Just had the water pump changed out (big deal for the XJ). The ride is nice. Everybody keeps thinking I bought it brand new and I am some "big baller", but in reality, the car is 7 years old and was gotten for a steal. If you are willing to take a slighty higher mileage car (say around 100K miles), you can get them down into the teens ($12-15K). Those may even come with the NA 5.0L engine (which I personally consider a better engine for the car over the V6). Sure, those cars are going to need a bit more TLC, but my 2012 had 150K miles on it and was not needing a whole lot of major work (sunroof screen motor needed replaced and the B pillar needed to be recovered). Nothing serious.
I have a 2006 and I too can attest to the FCM. I had to replace mine, shop said I had to replace the full fan assembly for $1400, bullsh*t and good thing I know my car and work on it myself. I specifically searched for the 4 pin and found it on Rockauto. Took 10min to swap it out and no over heating anymore. As for the headliner and A pillars. It’s some work to pull it all out, but with some spray glue from the parts store it’s not too much work to do yourself. Fix it. Keep it. And continue to enjoy it!
I gave my last X-Type to offspring a year ago, and I still miss it.
I drove X's for 13 years - they are solid and reliable cars that got looks by the bucket-load.
Worth owning, and worth maintaining.
Never had the fan problem. A new headliner was $750.
I drove X's for 13 years - they are solid and reliable cars that got looks by the bucket-load.
Worth owning, and worth maintaining.
Never had the fan problem. A new headliner was $750.
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