Manual gearbox - no drive
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Manual gearbox - no drive
Hi, looking for a little help here, please. I have spent the evening browsing the forums but could not find mention of this problem.
My ex-wife has a 2004 X-type, 2.5L with 5 speed manual transmission. We are in California, the car was bought from Connecticut when we lived in NY.
130,000 miles, no idea of whether anything has been replaced. We have had the car for around 4 years, put 40,000 miles on the clock, including the coast to coast drive with no real issues.
There was a period when the clutch seemed to be slipping, a year or two ago, when accelerating hard on freeway slip roads etc, but that seemed to cure itself. Clutch travel of late has been minimal before engagement and we figured it was getting near time to replace it.
However, we have a new problem, related or not?
Over the last few weeks it became progressively harder to get the car into first or reverse with the engine running, to the point that the routine was to reverse out of a parking space, switch off, put it in first with the clutch down and then restart engine, then drive off, changing up and down as normal. Now she calls me to tell me that the gear stick appears to be connected to nothing, and the car will not drive. Engine starts, seems fine. Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion, but the engine revolutions are not transmitted to the wheels.
Any suggestions? Is it a gearbox problem, or selector, or linkage, or clutch, or transfer case, or lack of chicken sacrifices?
Anyone want to buy a non-running X-type in Norcal?
Thanks for any help that anyone can give me, I think I will head back to 1980's XJ6's after this!
My ex-wife has a 2004 X-type, 2.5L with 5 speed manual transmission. We are in California, the car was bought from Connecticut when we lived in NY.
130,000 miles, no idea of whether anything has been replaced. We have had the car for around 4 years, put 40,000 miles on the clock, including the coast to coast drive with no real issues.
There was a period when the clutch seemed to be slipping, a year or two ago, when accelerating hard on freeway slip roads etc, but that seemed to cure itself. Clutch travel of late has been minimal before engagement and we figured it was getting near time to replace it.
However, we have a new problem, related or not?
Over the last few weeks it became progressively harder to get the car into first or reverse with the engine running, to the point that the routine was to reverse out of a parking space, switch off, put it in first with the clutch down and then restart engine, then drive off, changing up and down as normal. Now she calls me to tell me that the gear stick appears to be connected to nothing, and the car will not drive. Engine starts, seems fine. Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion, but the engine revolutions are not transmitted to the wheels.
Any suggestions? Is it a gearbox problem, or selector, or linkage, or clutch, or transfer case, or lack of chicken sacrifices?
Anyone want to buy a non-running X-type in Norcal?
Thanks for any help that anyone can give me, I think I will head back to 1980's XJ6's after this!
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It sounds as if the clutch has worn out.
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If it was the clutch on my manual transmission, should I not still be able to get it into a gear when the engine is off, then it would lurch when I tried to start it?
It does seem unusual that it would develop this problem on top of the clutch failing, but I assumed my ex was being her usual delicate self with the gear stick?
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It does seem unusual that it would develop this problem on top of the clutch failing, but I assumed my ex was being her usual delicate self with the gear stick?
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cooldood, from what you are describing, it is sounding like to me something is out of alignment with the stick shift and/or the cable that drive's the tranny. The first check I would try is disconnecting the linkage at the tranny and seeing if you can use a screw drivers or something to cycle the tranny through the gears. IF you can do it there, then that narrows things down to the shift lever or the cable. If the tranny will not go into 1st that way, then odds are you need some work done to the tranny. Too many possibilities to start saying "replace this and all will be good". I am leaning towards the shift lever since I can see where this may take a little bit of abuse while the car is parked. Heard some strange stories of what happens to gear shifters with the common thing is the women using the shifter as a place to hang their purse. You would be amazed as to what havoc that can create.
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Hi Thermo, thanks for you thoughts.
We towed the car bag to the ex's apartment complex, where it now languishes in the car park
Does my earlier comment "Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion" not suggest the shifter and cables are doing their job, or is there likely to be merit in disconnecting at the gearbox end and trying to move them manually?
While I used to quite enjoy tinkering like this, to the extent of rebuilding engines and changing things around the advancing years, and current living arrangements make that seem like a less attractive way to spend my free time (plus what tools did not get sold in split, are buried at the back of the overstocked storage space!)
We towed the car bag to the ex's apartment complex, where it now languishes in the car park
Does my earlier comment "Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion" not suggest the shifter and cables are doing their job, or is there likely to be merit in disconnecting at the gearbox end and trying to move them manually?
While I used to quite enjoy tinkering like this, to the extent of rebuilding engines and changing things around the advancing years, and current living arrangements make that seem like a less attractive way to spend my free time (plus what tools did not get sold in split, are buried at the back of the overstocked storage space!)
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Pound to a penny, the centre has broken out of the clutch plate and that is why you have no drive.
Hi, looking for a little help here, please. I have spent the evening browsing the forums but could not find mention of this problem.
My ex-wife has a 2004 X-type, 2.5L with 5 speed manual transmission. We are in California, the car was bought from Connecticut when we lived in NY.
130,000 miles, no idea of whether anything has been replaced. We have had the car for around 4 years, put 40,000 miles on the clock, including the coast to coast drive with no real issues.
There was a period when the clutch seemed to be slipping, a year or two ago, when accelerating hard on freeway slip roads etc, but that seemed to cure itself. Clutch travel of late has been minimal before engagement and we figured it was getting near time to replace it.
However, we have a new problem, related or not?
Over the last few weeks it became progressively harder to get the car into first or reverse with the engine running, to the point that the routine was to reverse out of a parking space, switch off, put it in first with the clutch down and then restart engine, then drive off, changing up and down as normal. Now she calls me to tell me that the gear stick appears to be connected to nothing, and the car will not drive. Engine starts, seems fine. Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion, but the engine revolutions are not transmitted to the wheels.
Any suggestions? Is it a gearbox problem, or selector, or linkage, or clutch, or transfer case, or lack of chicken sacrifices?
Anyone want to buy a non-running X-type in Norcal?
Thanks for any help that anyone can give me, I think I will head back to 1980's XJ6's after this!
My ex-wife has a 2004 X-type, 2.5L with 5 speed manual transmission. We are in California, the car was bought from Connecticut when we lived in NY.
130,000 miles, no idea of whether anything has been replaced. We have had the car for around 4 years, put 40,000 miles on the clock, including the coast to coast drive with no real issues.
There was a period when the clutch seemed to be slipping, a year or two ago, when accelerating hard on freeway slip roads etc, but that seemed to cure itself. Clutch travel of late has been minimal before engagement and we figured it was getting near time to replace it.
However, we have a new problem, related or not?
Over the last few weeks it became progressively harder to get the car into first or reverse with the engine running, to the point that the routine was to reverse out of a parking space, switch off, put it in first with the clutch down and then restart engine, then drive off, changing up and down as normal. Now she calls me to tell me that the gear stick appears to be connected to nothing, and the car will not drive. Engine starts, seems fine. Gear stick is moving the selector on top of the gearbox/bellhousing in what seems a normal fashion, but the engine revolutions are not transmitted to the wheels.
Any suggestions? Is it a gearbox problem, or selector, or linkage, or clutch, or transfer case, or lack of chicken sacrifices?
Anyone want to buy a non-running X-type in Norcal?
Thanks for any help that anyone can give me, I think I will head back to 1980's XJ6's after this!
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Welcome to the forum, KnoxRandall,
If you go to the new members forum, you can introduce yourself :
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You can also add your details to your signature ie, model, engine, petrol/deisel, so members can relate to your issue?
Alan, the early part of this post is old, just in case you didn't realise?
Good luck! Stu
If you go to the new members forum, you can introduce yourself :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...-intro-must-5/
You can also add your details to your signature ie, model, engine, petrol/deisel, so members can relate to your issue?
Alan, the early part of this post is old, just in case you didn't realise?
Good luck! Stu
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