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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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I have a 2002 xtype manual transmissission 2.2 that was professionally detailed and now won't start.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 04:01 PM
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Check the inertia switch in the recess of the front right foot well A pillar hasn't been tripped.
It is like a push button circuit breaker.

If they power washed the engine bay, they also may have inadvertently filled the spark plug wells with water for you.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 05:25 PM
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PUll the coils and clean the water out of the plug wells. That should get the car to start. They try to get it done quick and cause all sorts of hell for these cars.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by h2o2steam
Check the inertia switch in the recess of the front right foot well A pillar hasn't been tripped.
It is like a push button circuit breaker.

If they power washed the engine bay, they also may have inadvertently filled the spark plug wells with water for you.
the carxhas sat now for almost a year would it not have dried out by now .I'm checking
 
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That might have been a detail you could have included in your original post, rather than anyone reading your post assuming this was just something that happened recently.

2.2L ......is your car a diesel?
If so, no spark plugs on a diesel.
If they power washed the engine bay, they could have forced water into any number of connectors in the engine bay.
You might need to go on a hunt for corrosion inside any connectors, especially the ECM connector.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 10:12 PM
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Also check ground locations, especially those near the headlamps.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 12:37 PM
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Some inconsistencies in the spec. The diesel engine was introduced in 2003 engine size with a 2.0 capacity.

The 2.2 came out in 2005.

Maybe its a 2002 petrol 2.1 with FWD?

Help Us OP
 

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Old Apr 26, 2024 | 01:45 PM
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After a detail typically cars with weak batteries won’t start because of the amount of time the detailer spends with open panels that drain the battery. That’s my experience anyway. Two times now. He did such a great Job cleaning all the little crevices that the battery died. I almost feel like a proper job hasn’t been done unless my battery is flat
 

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Spike, you bring up a good point. At a minimum, after all this time, a full charge is going to be needed anyways.

As for a detailer killing your battery, I would think that they would know this would happen and would have something set up to help keep the battery charged. Whether a second battery, a solar panel, or some small generator.
 
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Originally Posted by h2o2steam
That might have been a detail you could have included in your original post, rather than anyone reading your post assuming this was just something that happened recently.

2.2L ......is your car a diesel?
If so, no spark plugs on a diesel.
If they power washed the engine bay, they could have forced water into any number of connectors in the engine bay.
You might need to go on a hunt for corrosion inside any connectors, especially the ECM connector.
not a diesel
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 05:49 PM
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not a diesel
I'm sorry I guess I should explain a little better..my son swapped out my raidiator all was good drove it to the detailer they detailed it and it hasn't ran since.battery died at detailer they charger it and still nothing it has sat for a year cause no time to trouble shoot .jumped the starter it cranks but still didn't start .bit still nothing when I turn the key
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cheriberry
I'm sorry I guess I should explain a little better..my son swapped out my raidiator all was good drove it to the detailer they detailed it and it hasn't ran since.battery died at detailer they charger it and still nothing it has sat for a year cause no time to trouble shoot .jumped the starter it cranks but still didn't start .bit still nothing when I turn the key
could it be programming on the key Iget power everywhere checked all relays allbfuses jumped starter ir cranked but wouldnt start..im gonna run a car diagnostic by holding trip key
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by h2o2steam
That might have been a detail you could have included in your original post, rather than anyone reading your post assuming this was just something that happened recently.

2.2L ......is your car a diesel?
If so, no spark plugs on a diesel.
If they power washed the engine bay, they could have forced water into any number of connectors in the engine bay.
You might need to go on a hunt for corrosion inside any connectors, especially the ECM connector.
im sorry it's a 2.5
 
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Old Apr 28, 2024 | 07:32 PM
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OK did a self diagnostic by holding the trip button then the key to auxiliary I got a bunch of bad key program .does this mean the key needs to be programmed again.it has work for 2 years without an issue I have no key fob just 2 black transponder keys
 
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Old Apr 29, 2024 | 10:40 AM
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cheriberry, if you are getting informaiton about bad keys, then yes, I would call a locksmith and see what they can do for you. the other check you can do is attempt to start the car and you should be able to see an error message come up on the info/message spot in the instrument cluster (should say something about "failed security" as I recall). You can also look at the center console by the coin holder. There is a red LED there. If that is lighting as you are cranking the car, that is telling you that the security for the car has failed and it is not letting the car start. You have either of those, you have a potential key issue.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2024 | 03:52 PM
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cheriberry, if you are getting informaiton about bad keys, then yes, I would call a locksmith and see what they can do for you. the other check you can do is attempt to start the car and you should be able to see an error message come up on the info/message spot in the instrument cluster (should say something about "failed security" as I recall). You can also look at the center console by the coin holder. There is a red LED there. If that is lighting as you are cranking the car, that is telling you that the security for the car has failed and it is not letting the car start. You have either of those, you have a potential key issue.
seems the security is preforming properly .there's no messages and the light goes on and off with the key .had lock smith out and he couldn't communicate with the ecu . could it be the issue I have power to the starter haven't tested any further not sure how.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2024 | 08:22 PM
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seems the security is preforming properly .there's no messages and the light goes on and off with the key .had lock smith out and he couldn't communicate with the ecu . could it be the issue I have power to the starter haven't tested any further not sure how.
my son has given me new info they were using the wrong key when they tried to jump start wich tripped security system .iremember the light flashing in between the seats it was flashing 11 or 13 times .but stopped after they left the battery unplugged for over a year.I have two keys that are less than a couple of years old .im not sure hat key was used when they tried to jump start but it wasnt one that was ever intended for the car..When i try the right key the security liht comes on and goes off no more blinking but before they left battery unplug the right key didnt stop the blinking and still no crank



 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 07:29 PM
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cheriberry, you say nothing about the state of the battery. I would first start with putting the battery on a charge and ensure it is at 100%. Next, I would turn on the map light and watch that light as you attempt to start the car. Does the light remain just as bright, do it dim, or does it go all the way out. The light should dim some from the starter pulling some power in an attempt to roll the engine. If the light remains bright, then you are not getting a signal to the starter. If it goes out, then you most likely have bad battery cables and those will need to be at a minimum cleaned, but it would be best if they were replaced. If you try this later and still are having issues, then you will need to connect a multimeter across the battery as you are attempting to start the car (leads of the multimeter should only the touching the lead part of the battery terminal, not the steel part of the battery cable. As the motor should be rolling (ie, ignition switch in the START position), you should see 10.5 to 11.0 VDC. If you are down around 9.5 (pretty much anything under 10.5 VDC), then you have a bad cell in the battery and it needs to be replaced.

Along these lines, before going through a lot of work, you may want to pull the battery and have a store do a "load test" on the battery (it will need to be fully charged for the test to be accurate). The store attendant should come back and say that your battery is at XX percent capacity. You want that number to be above 75%. Below that, strange things happen with the car. If you have a low capacity, then you will need a new battery.

Another check I would do is open the hood and then atleast look under the cowl, especially on the left side (as you are facing the car, standing in front of it) as that is where the ECU is located. The insulation in the wiring is soy based and rodents love it. You may very well have a wiring problem from letting the car sit. Those little critters have destroyed a number of X-Type harnesses.

The last tidbit of data that I am curious about is whether you are getting a "click" or not when attempting to start the car. Does it sound like the starter is engaging, but doesn't have enough umpf to roll the engine or is it silent?
 
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