is it alright to use the new titanium added oil?

 

For sure!

 

no need for any special oils, the cheapest oil works fine

 

Doubt I've seen a more ridiculous suggestion. Here's what cheap oil gets you. If you want best performance and longest engine life, synthetic oil is the way to go - which is why many OEMs specify them. There's many excellent synthetic oils on the market, with good value to be had if you shop around. Lazy gotta-have-it-now DIYers go to Walmart and buy Mobil 1 for $5 a quart. Cheap enough?

 

well my saturn has 285,000 miles my last jag before it got smashed had 198,000 doest that tell you something just chage it every 5000 ,im not going to get into a full blown debate its just facts oil is oil and i have the proof end of story end of debate anf flaming

 

Whatever works for you is fine. However when you give advice like "cheap oil is fine" or "oil is oil" that others disagree with, then expect other opinions to surface. There's wide performance and service life variations in motor oils; they're not all the same as you think. Reasonable change intervals using decent (or better) quality oil is best for long life. Current (though not in our X-Types) engine advancements like direct injection, variable valve timing, turbocharging and others demand excellent oils, hence the trend toward synthetic by the OEMs.

 

Given that manufacturers desire low original cost, and the ability to
advertise low maintenance costs ....

would we not expect those manufacturers to source their oil from
Walmart house brand Super Tech if it worked, and to tell owners
they could use the same?

They certainly cheap out on everything else possible, why would
they not use the cheapest oil if they could get away with it?

 

OEMs do get the best price on lubricants - because of the volume commanded for both factory fill and service fill at their dealership networks. And they get them from the major oil companies too. Consumer retail market is completely different.

 

you talk oil all day i use the cheapest i can find and never had a issue with any of my cars.

1 2010 lexus gs350 no problems...106,000
2 2000 saturn sw2 192,000
3 1994 saturn sl2 282,000
4 2003 kia sorento 104,000
5 2002 jaguar x-type 162,000
6 2005 jaguar x-type 92,000
7 1987 mazda rx7 turbo 2 210,000 rotary engine ,t3t4 turbo haltech computer 3' downpipe cheapest 20w50 oil

ive kept the lexus and the jag plus the saturn
ive had other cars i did the same
no flame just saying these expensive oils in my opinion are a waste of money because i was was a sucku at one time not any more
i just change my oil at 5000 mile thats it

this is a forum for those who want to see what others do with there cars,Bad or Good
with out flaming

ive been on this forum along time doesn't meen i now anything but i no my cars oil is cheep and i have never had a issue with engines

 

Geesh! This was all he asked.
No need to get into an oil type battle. There are no winners there!

 

I take it that you didn't quite get the drift.

The point is not the oem's particular pricing, but
rather that an oem would be loath to use anything
more expensive than absolutely required.

Now, if they happen to specify something more
expensive than the cheapest, then there must
be a reason. Thus, if a manufacturer specifies
a synthetic then they must perceive some benefit
to paying extra.

 

I got the drift. Best o' luck to OP and all others with whatever method you prefer.

 

I was worried about those nano particles clogging up the chain tensioner but I now realise they are too small to do that.

These new oils are a whole lot safer on your oxygen sensors and cats than other types of oil. The nano particle added types like castrol edge titanium, magnatec and millers oils nanodrive is a whole lot more slippery and tougher film than earlier oils. That means startup is a lot less stressful on the engine.

Im definitely going to use edge titanium.

 

I think just because a car has gone a lot of miles with no engine problems is not sufficient reason to believe it wouldn't have performed better and lasted even longer with a better quality oil. Every mechanic I've dealt with in recent years swears by synthetic oils and if they buy a new car with normal oil in it, they immediately replace it with synthetic. Any oil can get dirty and regular changes at decent intervals is probably even more important than oil quality.However, the new synthetics with those "nano" whatever additives are designed to cling more to those moving engine parts, rather than all drain down into the bottom of the sump. That few seconds at startup is where engine wear occurs because the moving parts are all dry until the oil gets pumped up onto them. This makes sense to me so I use the castrol edge titanium full synthetic in all my cars. I would say lower cost Walmart synthetic is probably just as good if your on a really tight budget though.