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RWD
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Portfolio trim.
and NO NAV.
 

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Jaguar XE prepares to take on BMW 3-series | Autocar

According to Autocar, "Sitting underneath the XF in Jaguar's model line-up, prices for the XE are likely to start around £29,000 when it goes on sale towards the middle of next year."

That's about $48,000. Hope they are wrong.


A BMW 320 in the UK is around 1,000£ less, but that obviously doesn't reflect the prices we have in the US, they have that pesky VAT that really drives up the price. For further reference, the XF with the 3.0L starts at ~47,000£. Jaguar wants to expand, they won't be pricing this close to where the XF sits now.
 
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Originally Posted by Executive
Jaguar XE prepares to take on BMW 3-series | Autocar

According to Autocar, "Sitting underneath the XF in Jaguar's model line-up, prices for the XE are likely to start around £29,000 when it goes on sale towards the middle of next year."

That's about $48,000. Hope they are wrong.
That would be a horrible mistake!!!
 
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That would be a horrible mistake!!!
Agreed! They would do themselves a disservice if it's not in the low $30,000 range.
 
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UK prices (much higher!) generally do not translate into US market prices. It's probably a good guess that the XE prices will correlate with BMW 3 Series in the US:

320i Sedan - Starting at $32,750 MSRP
328i Sedan - Starting at $37,300 MSRP
328d Sedan - Starting at $38,600 MSRP
335i Sedan - Starting at $43,400 MSRP


Add $2K to the above for 4-wheel drive. Jaguar will probably not have as much variety as BMW offers, but for comparable offerings, the prices will be comparable. At least, that's my guess....
 
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I want the XE to feel like a Jaguar, though I'm biased to the older ride/handling feel because I haven't had a Jag newer than the X300.

If it comes as a 2.0T RWD manual, I might be able to afford a new one. I am looking forward to trying that new 4-cyl engine.
 
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I wonder if the XE will offer two outputs of the 2.0L like BMW does with the 320/328, or if they'll do the 2.0L with the 3.0L being the next step up.
 
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I've seen a few spy pictures of this in a convertible. 4-seat convertibles are quite uncommon these days and I'd love to see Jaguar make a successful one. And by 4-seats, i mean seats way bigger than the ones in the back of an XK
 
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Cooled seats are great on a hot sticky summer day when the sun has heated those black seats to a scorching temperature. Once you start the car wait 30-90 seconds to cool down the seats. Without cooled seats, no matter how cool you have the A/C on hot days the back is usually sweaty and the clothes get damp.

We sure do get used to the little things in life. Only a short few years ago, at least it seems like a few short years,, electric windows & steering and even A/C was considered a luxury.
 
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I want the XE to feel like a Jaguar, though I'm biased to the older ride/handling feel because I haven't had a Jag newer than the X300.

If it comes as a 2.0T RWD manual, I might be able to afford a new one. I am looking forward to trying that new 4-cyl engine.
Feel like a Jag is a must. It also has to sound like a Jag. My first was a 2010 XF 385 HP. The sound coming out of that tailpipe was what sold me the first time.

Went over to a Baby RR Evoque at the lease end. Swore at that SUV for 13 months. Hated the trany. Traded it in for a 2013 XF 6 cyl 340 HP AWD. I am in love again, although that Grrrre sound out of the pipe is more like a Gr. Wonder if the sound can be tuned?
 
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The first thing I do when I start my car is turn stop-start off, I see no reason to not be able to have it off at all times.
Interesting. I keep the eco mode on all the time. Got used to it. Love it when its deadly quiet. I can pretend that I am an environmentalist driving an electric car.
 
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Interesting. I keep the eco mode on all the time. Got used to it. Love it when its deadly quiet. I can pretend that I am an environmentalist driving an electric car.
I don't find it that seamless, plus with my drive there's not much stop and go traffic to actually see the benefits of it so when it does turn off it's more of a shock thank anything.
 
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New Jaguar XE to get F-type's V6 engine | Autocar




Jaguar confirms its new BMW 3-series rival, due next year, will come with the F-type's supercharged V6 as well as its new range of Ingenium engines

The Jaguar XE was revealed at the Geneva motor show early last month


The upcoming Jaguar XE will be available with the same supercharged V6 engine already used in the F-type sports car when it goes on sale next year.

It was previously reported that Jaguar would only use its new range of 2.0-litre, four-cylinder engines – currently referred to as the 'Ingenium' family – on its BMW 3-series rival.

Jaguar's official UK website has now, though, confirmed the model will also be available with the same supercharged 3.0-litre V6 engine seen in the F-type V6 and V6S models. The engine produces 335bhp and 325lb ft of torque in V6 convertible guise, propelling the F-type to 60mph in 5.1 seconds, and on to a top speed of 161mph. It returns around 32mpg, with CO2 emissions of 205g/km.

In higher-powered V6S form, the engine produces 375bhp and 339lb ft, dropping the F-type's 0-60mph sprint time to 4.8 seconds, and boosting its top speed to 171mph.

The XE is likely to be priced from £29,000 when it goes on sale in order to remain competitive against its rivals, including the new Mercedes-Benz C-class. The car will use a new high-tech aluminium platform, and sit underneath the XF in Jaguar's range.

A company spokesman confirmed the power unit would be offered, and that further details would be released ahead of the XE going on sale.
Read more about the Jaguar XE's technical secrets.
 
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Originally Posted by Executive
Jaguar XE prepares to take on BMW 3-series | Autocar

According to Autocar, "Sitting underneath the XF in Jaguar's model line-up, prices for the XE are likely to start around £29,000 when it goes on sale towards the middle of next year."

That's about $48,000. Hope they are wrong.
Comparing pricing from different places is not just a matter of using a currency conversion

UK Pricing
320 MT 26,565 AT 28,365
328 MT 29,765 AT 33,030


USA Pricing
320 $32,750
328 $37,300

So I'd expect a 200 hp 2L version to go for around 37,000 in the States
 
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pragmatic
Comparing pricing from different places is not just a matter of using a currency conversion

UK Pricing
320 MT 26,565 AT 28,365
328 MT 29,765 AT 33,030


USA Pricing
320 $32,750
328 $37,300

So I'd expect a 200 hp 2L version to go for around 37,000 in the States
I would agree. I don't think Jaguar will have any completely different V6 or V8 engine so the XE model lineup will look pretty similar to the XF and the F-Type. Here's my best guess of the model lineup:

XE 2.0T RWD: 240HP, 3100 pounds, $32000
XE 2.0T AWD: 240HP, 3300 pounds, $35000
XE 3.0 Premium RWD: 3.0 V6, 340HP, 3350 pounds, $35000
XE 3.0 Premium AWD: 3.0 V6, 340HP 3550 pounds, $38000
XE Supercharged RWD: 3.0 V6, 380HP, 3360 pounds, $47000
XE Supercharged AWD: 3.0 V6, 380HP, 3560 pounds, $50000
XE-R: 5.0 V8 RWD, 470HP, 3675 pounds, $68000
XE-R S: 5.0 V8 RWD, 495HP, 3700 pounds, $80000

I based my pricing and weight assumptions against the existing differentiation between respective XF and F-Type models. The old AWD X-Type weighed in at 3516 pounds with the 3.0 227HP V6 so hopefully the all-aluminum substructure on the XE should shave at least 50 pounds off given a similar engine configuration. However, the supercharger and assorted tubing will put some of that weight back on. Again the old AWD X-Type with the 3.0 V6 that could do 0-60 in 7.8 seconds, here's my performance guesses with the theoretical XE lineup:

XE 2.0T RWD: 7.3
XE 2.0T AWD: 7.7
XE 3.0 Premium RWD: 5.6
XE 3.0 Premium AWD: 6.0
XE Supercharged RWD: 5.0
XE Supercharged AWD: 5.4
XE-R: 4.4
XE-R S: 4.2

That said, those performance figures would certainly put the XE above that of the current XF due to the XE’s lighter weight. However, the XF is due for a new aluminum body around 2016 so the redesigned XF probably would have higher output power on its engines thus keeping the XF as the “better” car.
 

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Originally Posted by JGene
XE 2.0T RWD: 240HP, 3100 pounds, $32000
XE 2.0T AWD: 240HP, 3300 pounds, $35000
XE 3.0 Premium RWD: 3.0 V6, 340HP, 3350 pounds, $35000
XE 3.0 Premium AWD: 3.0 V6, 340HP 3550 pounds, $38000
XE Supercharged RWD: 3.0 V6, 380HP, 3360 pounds, $47000
XE Supercharged AWD: 3.0 V6, 380HP, 3560 pounds, $50000
XE-R: 5.0 V8 RWD, 470HP, 3675 pounds, $68000
XE-R S: 5.0 V8 RWD, 495HP, 3700 pounds, $80000
This looks good amd reasonable. Only thing I would add is I think the 2.0L will get a MT option. I'm basing this on the competition (BMW 3 series, Cadillac ATS, Audi A4) and the fact that with the turbo 4 Mustang a manual should be available that mates to turbo 4.
 
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I would go for that pricing, I just hope the packaging is good, I'd rather have more standalone options than have to get a whole package just to get something like navigation.
 
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Manual transmissions are extremely popular in Europe but the North American market isn't quite so keen on them. Unless Jaguar want to spec out production runs on both transmissions I'm guessing either they'll grandfather in the rotoshifter like they have on the existing XF and XJ or go the toggle shifter like what is on the F-Type now. Something tells me that the interior of the F-Type is a good look into the future of where Jaguar is moving. With that in mind I would expect a huge number of options but factory Nav would probably be standard. Cloth seats could even be a possibility but I would anticipate conventional headlights alongside HID bulbs as a more likely option.

Whatever features and options that Jaguar eventually settles on it has to be at least as good as if not best the Audi A4, Cadillac ATS, BMW 3 Series, and Mercedes C-Class. See what each of those offer within the base option-free models and that'll give you a good idea on what the XE will likely feature standard. One other point I wanted to bring up was the dimensions of the car. The old X-Type was 185" long while the XF is 195". The current XJ is 201" and 206" in LWB form. I doubt Jaguar will make a LWB XE but who knows. I would guess the XE would be 185-190" in length.
 
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I don't have an MBA, nor do I understand the detailed principles of how to win market share. However, my gut tells me that Jaguar should price the base trim aggressively if they want to win converts, or folks looking at that level of luxury vehicle.

Mercedes has a model at $29,900. The A3 was just introduced at the same price point. I recognize the A3 may not be a direct apples/apples comparison, and the A4 is at $33,800. BMW's 3 series starts at $32,750. I just feel that Jaguar has come in aggressive and hopefully we get a quality car at a better price. I think we all want to see this succeed, especially X-Type owners like myself. At any rate, it's going to be interesting to see this develop and which direction they go.
 
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Yeah I just don't see them pricing it below the A3 and CLA. Would be nice but I don't think that'll happen.
 
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