Thanks. You're right. It is an inconvenience to use EZ Plate because I have to detour to ensure that I can get in an EZ tag lane WITHOUT a gate (this is mentioned on their website about the gates). This detour deals with a lot more traffic. I deal with it but it's a fact.


For the other guy: Yeah, I'm a whiner. Deal with it. When I pay 84k for a car, I have an expectation of not spending this much time in the shop. My 2009 Murano, with the same mileage, hasn't spent a single day in the shop. I don't enjoy driving that car so don't suggest that I go buy a Nissan so I don't have a car in the shop. I really enjoy the Jag when it's running right and don't when it's in the shop (for weeks).


I don't want to get in a pissing match over this. I'm just stating facts about the repair history. That is all.

 

Possibly you could tell us in detail exactly what was wrong with the car. Simply saying 'it needed 10K in repairs in 2 months' is bound to get a negative reaction.

 

How about reading the first post of the thread?

 

That's a list of the parts changed.

It is impossible for all eight injectors to go bad at the same time as both fuel pumps.

 

There has been some unnecessary comments posted into this thread, now edited / removed.

The OP has his opinions to which he is entitled, as are we.
I think we're all trying to get to the bottom of why so much expense, why so many parts etc etc, which isn't a bad thing, lets be honest.

The OP himself, says he may be considered somewhat whiney, but has higher expectations of an $84k car......fair point I guess.

Please consider comments before posting.......it's too late afterwards as the damage has been done.

Thanks

 

Paul:
I am sorry that the thread got into the "shoot the messenger" mode, and I hope my comments aren't taken that way. I do not expect you asked the shop to do all of the probably unneeded work. You did, however, make a strong editorial comment, "CAR IS GONE" which would indicate you believed the repair charges and time might be valid and typical, which I think is an error.
I am interested in what explanation, if any, the shop gave for changing so much of the fuel system. Did they blame some kind of contamination? Same for the oil pan. I would say that since you are obviously a "car guy", being on the forum, then you should take an interest in what root causes lead to repairs in your car. Knowledge means power in future situations, like when the warranty company refuses future payments.

Now, all that said, I agree with your comment about spare Jaguars. Note the signature line!

 

OK. I felt I really didn't get a straight story between the info from the service mgr. and the tech that did the work. Not my call, though, as the warranty company sent an inspector out 2x to review the work to be done and its cost, so I figure I'd let the experts sort it out. All I wanted was the car back and running.


As for the car being GONE... Well when the car hits 100k miles, the extended warranty will be over. That will be in about 2 years and I am not going to have that car without one. I don't think I will be able to get another warranty on the car with that many miles (at a reasonable cost). It has nothing to do with these repairs. I'm just glad they were able to get it back on the road. I wish it didn't take so long.


I am really glad that I spent the $5k on the extended warranty as I am ahead of the game.

 

Not to belabour, your statement would be true if the car had $10K worth of faults. I see maybe $2-3K worth of labour and parts in what you've described. Half that if a person were to DIY.

 

Parts and Labor


fuel injectors ($322 each) and spark plugs ($14 each) - 4045
water pump - 958
control arm bushing - 634 - mostly labor
wheel ($975) - 1015
oil pan - 1182 - mostly labor. Not a new oil pan
hp fuel pumps - 1600
car rental - 180 actually higher than this.
deductible - 560


Total - 10354.


Labor for the fuel injectors and plugs was 1372 and the labor for the oil pan was 1094. I don't have a breakout for the HP fuel pumps. I guess it could be considered that I am double-dipping on the deductible so you could drop that.



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I don't suppose you want to name the Dealer? After all isn't word of month everything in service and integrity!!
I was at a conference and the presenter had just got taken by the local Jag Dealer,he must have mentioned the dealer 20 times!!

 

Understood, but you didn't need 8 injectors and 2 fuel pumps and 8 plugs in the first place.

Somebody shotgunned whatever problem you had (still not mentioned) and conned the warranty company.

Broken wheel is your fault.

What was wrong with the water pump?

 

Wow:
I am going out to polish all of the tools in my tool chest.

 

Glad your car is fixed. Don't feel too bad. Someone I work with had their x5 , a few hundred miles out of warranty need both turbos replaced at cost od $10k. No extended warranty. Since they buy Bmws exclusively, the dealer repaired them after talking to Bmw. All luxury brands are in the "don't be without warranty" category. Where I work we have a pretty good representation of most of them. Story is the same.

 

Exactly as Jaguny states.

I won't own a newer car without a warranty. It is just not worth the risk. It does not matter if it is a Jag, Merc, Toyota, Honda or any Domestic brand.

The biggest reason for me is I am super **** about everything being perfect and I can't live with my cars if they are nickle-n-diming me every time I turn the key on.

My post was not a "bash" on Jag, it was a general statement on the second most expensive item we buy. I would rather have a monthly payment and a newer car and let someone else worry about dealing with repair headaches.

 

Totally agree with you. Today's vehicles are too expensive to own, insure and repair without trying to keep some of the cost of ownership down. My daily driver is a plain old F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost motor. It's warranty is up at 75,000 and it will be finding a new home before that happens. I highly doubt that turbos for it are any cheaper than any other manufacturer. I do find it funny that Ford calls it the Ecoboost. Its just a plain old twin turbocharged V6. Anybody who buys a full sized truck for fuel mileage has screwed up, I don't care who makes the thing.

 

>Its just a plain old twin turbocharged V6. Anybody who buys a full sized truck for fuel mileage has screwed up

Ah, yes, the olde maxim rings true: "There is no substitute for cubic inches"

That's why I'm troubled when considering what I will replace my S-Type 4.2
when the time comes. I will really want a 5.0 NA motor not a boosted one... :-(
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Jaguar - it's not an automobile, it's a Motorcar

 

I think you mean "there is no replacement for displacement".

 

>I think you mean "there is no replacement for displacement".

Ya, that works, too. And perhaps it is more applicable to those outside the US that may not truly appreciate the concept of "cubic inches"
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Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car
Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, and
Torque is how far you take the wall with you

 

Which warranty provider did you go with? 5k? Did that cover you for 5 years+??

 

What surprises me the most about this thread is that nobody has suggested cleaning the injectors. The cost of ultrasonic injector cleaning for all 8 of them would have been less than one replacement injector.