Almost every country treats climate change as an issue - a science i.e. knowledge one, rather than a political one.

So, they are mostly trying to get CO2 down.

Whereas at least one well-known leader thinks otherwise (and isn't interested in facts)...

 

You're probably correct.



If you'd like to turn this into a political discussion, rather than the automotive discussion it started out as, we can do that.


Our "brilliant politicians", as well as our "well meaning scientists", got together, a couple of decades ago, and came up with a "knee-jerk" solution to pollution...........they basically handcuffed American factories with draconian anti-pollution regulations. Unfortunately, they forgot some simple facts.


They forgot that the general public, by that point in time, was used to having as many cars as they wanted, as many television sets as they wanted, as many washing machines and refrigerators as they wanted, etc, etc. There were thousands of factories providing what had become necessities. Their newly minted regulations shut many of them down, and put people out of work.


BUT......the population still wanted these manufactured goods. So, the "dirt poor", 3rd world nations, saw an opportunity to make a buck. They didn't have any pollution problems (at the time), because all they had were picks and shovels, to grow food for subsistence, and not much more. Factories meant income, and at least temporarily, an improved standard of living. They went for it.


These 3rd world countries didn't have numerous government regulatory agencies to burden them, nor the established infrastructure to support these newly imported factories. So, they simply dumped their waste in the streets, in holes in the ground behind the factory, or in the local rivers. Now THEY have a pollution problem, but like many other "hot topics", it's never fully discussed, and just swept under the rug.


Want to talk about air pollution?? Look at the city of Beijing... The residents have to wear dust masks, when they go outside. That's the result of UNREGULATED manufacturing. Think that crap in the air doesn't get spread around the world? Yes, America did try, in a backhanded sort of way, to cut pollution, but other countries didn't, and WELCOMED American backed factories. All that "the well known leader" is doing is looking at the lopsided business climate, one that's hurting America, and saying we need to take another, UNBIASED look at these regulations........

 

>Want to talk about air pollution??

Please don't, this forum is a place for us to talk about technical subjects like the use of balance shafts and how to drain/fill a ZF transmission, etc. It's a place were we can leave the highly politicized world behind.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. That is a very good point!

 

I can confirm this, as we have fellow F-type owners getting to 400-420hp with simple pulley and tune. With a bigger SC we can easily see 500HP out of that V6.

Now, personally, I am not a fan of this solution. This setup makes engine heavier than normal V6 would be and to me this is a big deal in a roadster. When installed into sedan, who cares? Keep in mind, this V6 setup also increases oil capacity due to sharing V8 pan, and at least with F-type shares cooling setup with V8. This makes it much more durable when pushed around the track. With the engine cover off and with a stock tune I have yet to experience any heat soak.

Now, if I could ask JLR to mod a car for me, it would be manual gearbox SVR F-type. Unfortunately, existing MT could handle only about V6 output.

 

Not really, but I believe I correctly pointed out WHY countries push (much) lower engine sizes.

It's also why many are pushing electric etc cars, e.g. with subsidies.

 

Is the V6 going to be replaced by an Ingenium 3L straight 6 engine?

 

Almost certainly yes, but it is probably another one or two years away yet.

 

Won't a "straight 6" be significantly longer than a V-6? It seems that they'll need a pretty big shoehorn to make it work.....

 

It probably won't be much longer than the AJ126 V6, which as we know uses the AJ133 V8 block. I understand that the Ingenium is a fairly compact design, and there should be enough room under the relatively long F-Type hood to fit an I6.

 

We got our 2012 XJL and XF precisely because 2012 was the last year for the NA 5.0 engine. I have now driven more than half a dozen V6 models, ranging from Jaguar service loaners, F-type variations and an F-Pace. Sorry, I just can not see purchasing one with that rough idle. A week ago I reluctantly test drove a 2018 Audi Q5. Reluctantly, because I normally can not stand the start-up and idle roughness of 4-bangers. Wow... what a surprise. Smooth as butter that Audi 4-banger.

I am getting ready to replace our '12 5.0 XF but, can not see accepting this Jaguar V6. Not until, at minimum, they balance the idle so that it does not vibrate like and old, cheap 4-banger.

 

With the ingenium 3L straight 6 likely to be tuned up to 500hp it will be interesting to see if a Jag look at replacing the V8 with an Ingenium 4L V8 which would be good for 600hp plus to match the 4L V8s from Mercedes and Audi.

Then of course the Ingenuim 6L V12 which would be 800hp plus for Jags next Aston Martin challenger. Ah ok my imagination may have got the better of me😜

 

We didn't get our '12 XJ specifically for that reason, but after it got wrecked, and we got the '16, with a V-6, we miss the '12 even more...