found a 09 XF premium 4.2L with 80,000 miles on it for sale.
thinking of getting it for my wife.


two owner


car fax looks good


Took for a test drive all seems well mechanically.
cosmetic: headlights have spider cracks and I would like to replace them. few paint chips as usual for a used car.




I just wanted to know what are some common issues or thing to look out for.
I would assume that with 80,000 miles if issues came up they may have already been taken care of.


I have no experience with Jaguar at all.


thanks!

 

Is this a private party or a dealer? Either way, make them replace the headlights, they are not cheap. Take the car to a reputable independent Jaguar mechanic or a Jaguar Dealer for a complete inspection and diagnostic check. Have them put it on a hoist and look under the car for any damage. It's better to find out NOW if something is wrong rather then after the purchase. Keep in mind Carfax is great but the car may have been repaired at a body shop that does NOT provide information to CARFAX. This is why you have to inspect the car from top to bottom.


These cars are FANTASTIC but keep in mind the car your looking at is 6 years old and has 80K. The 2009 was the first production year and may have some issues that were worked out in later models just like in ANY brand of car. Parts are very expensive too. Keep us posted.

 

I know that the first year of a car is one to be careful about.
Is there typical things to look out for or common problems?

Its at a dealer.

 

just got a email from the dealer the price dropped... $250 lol

 

The 2009 XF *was* a new model, but it used a lot of the architecture underneath from previous models. The 4.2L AJ-V8 engine in the 09 XF is the same basic setup that Jaguar has been using for decades (with a few changes over the years.) The engine is bullet proof.

Not so for the rest of the vehicle. I'd look to see if the transmission pan, sleeve, and cooler lines have been replaced. In the 60K to 80K range I start seeing most of these leak on my customers' cars. The lines run form $1100 - $1300 to replace and the trans pan and sleeve are the same. In short, you could buy the vehicle and immediately have to drop $2600 to address leaks if they haven't been addressed already. Most non-dealership shops will not know to look for this, and if they do see it, will typically only recommend replacing the trans pan gasket not knowing that the pan itself is usually the problem. The transmission is sealed on these babies and the fluid is the price of liquid gold - therefore you can't easily top it off and you pay too much for it to let it drip all over the ground.

The other concerns I see most often are vacuum leaks. These little babies will eventually foul up the catalytic converter if not addressed in the appropriate time. I've seen folks bring cars in AFTER (wtf?) they purchase it with a check engine light on for the cats, thinking that it's just a sensor or something. It's not uncommon for someone to ignore a somewhat expensive vacuum leak long enough that it causes more damage. They repair the vacuum leak thinking that's the end of the issue, then the light comes back on for the cats because they waited too long. That one ain't a cheap repair either. ****Make sure the dealership you take it to for the pre-purchase inspection pulls codes to see what is stored. That will let you know if you may be facing a surprise check-engine light shortly after purchase.

The only other somewhat expensive repairs are suspension bushings. The XF has a beautifully designed suspension but it has like a 1,000 bushings in there. It seems like it anyway. Bushing deterioration is normal wear and nothing to be alarmed about, but can get pricey to address.

Finally, if this place offers an aftermarket warranty, get it. BUT get it only if it is a good one. CNA is BY FAR the best I've worked with. They cover more than the Jaguar Select Edition extended warranty covers. A lot of those little warranty companies will not cover any of the above mentioned repairs because they consider the trans cooler lines hoses and the suspension just wear and tear. Carmax's MaxxCare is also amazing - they're a subsidiary of CNA.

Good luck! They're fantastic automobiles, but they aren't cheap to maintain. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
Lisa

 

In addition, check the differential for leaks from the axle shaft seals as the differentials and axle shafts have been uprated on a certain VIN range.

Inspect the cooling system for any leaks as the the water pumps on the 4.2 litre AJ-V8 are prone to leakage as is the water outlet containing the thermostat, which is constructed of plastic on the NA engine.

The ZF 6HP26/28 series gearbox is prone to leak from cracks in the pan and the electrical connector sleeve. A replacement pan, connector sleeve and six litres of ZF LifeGuard6 fluid can be purchased for about 300$US. Other fluids meeting Shell M1375.4 specification may also work in these gearboxes. There is a precise procedure for servicing these gearboxes outlined in the JTIS Workshop Manual.

If the battery has not been replaced, or is of questionable age, it is best to replace it to avoid having random DTCs that trigger the MIL.

 

OK……you say " the differentials and axle shafts have been uprated on a certain VIN range"…..what is the VIN range ??

 

The VIN range can be provided by any Jaguar agency as the document listing the procedure by JLR is JTB00175NAS5 - Rear Differential Replacement.

You can also directly contact Jaguar and provide your VIN, or go to TOPix and insert your VIN to see all relevant items for your vehicle.

 

Here you go…..check the VIN range on above bulletin. For XF(X250) it is R00001-R41865
That is the last 6 digits of the VIN. This is from JTB00175NAS5

 

Ive got a 09 model with 88K miles, and almost everything the above posts have mentioned has happened to me in the two years I've owned this car (vacuum leaks, water pump and coolant hoses, transmission cooler hoses, battery replacement). I'd like to add that my headliner has become detached from the interior roof (another known problem area), I just had to replace an alloy front wheel ($1,300), replaced all 4 rotors about a year ago, still have an undiagnosed idle fluctuation issue, the touch screen just cycles on and off, the rear window screen doesn't retract when the car is put in reverse (it used to), and now I'm looking at replacing every bushing in the front suspension. Insulation for the front parking lights has flaked off, exposing the bare wires, causing the lights not to work because they are grounding out. Spent $200 to get rid of the total junk 2-piece wheel lug nuts and replace all of them with a better one-piece design from Gorilla Automotive. Both cats are deteriorated from what the dealer has told me.

I work on maintenance-hungry cargo helicopters for a living, and its getting on my nerves that I have to treat this car the same way. This is my first and last Jaguar. I'd pass if you haven't already committed to purchase it.

 

I've had similar issues. I am at 57k miles

• water pump and coolant hoses
• transmission cooler hose
• replaced rotors
• leather dash is bubbling
• the little button thing you press to open the cup holder came off
• the plastic piece in the middle of the dash cracked
• had to replace some part in the door on the passenger side which made the door not lock
• the very right ac vent sometimes does not rotate closed
• silver paint around buttons in the console is rubbing off
• several little rattles/creaks when driving coming from sunroof/speaker area
• car sort of leaps forward in automatic when coming to a stop (did not always do that)
• right front passenger window sometimes will not go up automatically, I will have to press it up 3 times (it will go back down each time) then I can hold it and it will go up fully.

This was my first car so I am forgiving most of these things since I can't really say if this is normal. Won't be my last Jag though, saving up for the f-type

 

Just thinking out loud here

Most of those are common issues on the XF it is not if but when they fail. How many "redesigns" does it take to fix a water pump??

At what point do buyers of Jaguars stop making excuses as to why things fail time after time year after year and start making Jaguar fix the problems once and for all?

As an engineer it irritates the hell out of me when a company half asses something and the buyers almost expect it to fail but keep coming back for more. When you do that you are telling them it is ok to cut corners because we do not care or some go as far as calling it "character".

I would be extremely interested to see how many owners lease new vs buying, they know any issues will get fixed by Jag and they will never have to deal with them on their own.

I love my XFR but if Jag does not step it up more than what they have it will be my last.

 

Given your background, I am curious as to what you intend to purchase as your next vehicle. In my experience, every one of the automotive brands have their own issues with 'design flaws' and premature parts failures.

 

Hard to say at this point, I was leaning heavily toward a 2015 Chevy SS before I got the XFR. My requirements were four door, V8, RWD and a stick but I let the last one slide when I drove the Jag and I am glad I did Houston traffic sucks.

I didn't need a luxury car it just happened to tick the right boxes at the right time and there are not many four door RWD V8s on sale anymore.

Honestly if Ford ever comes out with a four door RWD V8 based on the Mustang that would by my next car. The Jag is very nice and fun to drive but some of the BS we have to put up with to own cars that Jag, BMW, Audi and Mercedes build baffle me sometimes when you look at the money spent. I mean really how many design revisions does it take to build a proper water pump.

Yes all brands have issues it just seems like the higher tier brands have more than others, I understand the whole pay to play blah blah blah but you have to draw the line somewhere.

I owned my 07 STi for 65k miles not ONE issue, I did all the maintenance my self without worrying about voiding the warranty.

Again I love the car and it really disappoints me when a company has a great product that is held back by a few things that should be EXTREMELY easy to fix but for some reason they choose not to.

Maybe at the end of the day I am to practical and I expect more out of cars that are almost touching $100K when new.

 

Interesting choices. I believe the days of the large displacement V8s is about over as smaller, more efficient engines are going to take their place. Two valves per cylinder pushrod designs will most likely be the first to go as they are very inefficient.

Both Ford and General Motors are probably going to use displacements between 1.5 and 3.0 litres with either supercharging or turbocharging, or both as in the case of the Jaguar C-X75 prototype, to appeal to those still wanting a V8 engine. The Ford 2.3 litre turbocharged unit in their uprated Mustang is a good indication of that direction.

As for the water pumps, many components are supplied to the manufacturers by outside vendors attempting to meet certain cost limits, weight limits or other design specifications, so it may or may not be possible for a quick and easy solution to some of these frustrating issues.

 

>not many four door RWD V8s on sale anymore.

Hyundai Genesis 5.0L V8

Just say'n

100k warranty, too...
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Those have had their fair share of problems too. My buddy just had the engine replaced on his and dumped it shortly thereafter.