Thoughts on Aftermarket Forged Wheels
#1
Thoughts on Aftermarket Forged Wheels
Hello Forum,
With my vehicle being a 2015 XFR-S, I already have Forged Varuna Wheels from the factory.
I need to confirm if the below details are accurate:
Also what are the stock weights of the Varunas?
I am looking at aftermarket Forged Wheels Only, from a hand full of manufacturers:
For now I have it narrowed down to (in no particular order):
With my vehicle being a 2015 XFR-S, I already have Forged Varuna Wheels from the factory.
I need to confirm if the below details are accurate:
- 20x9 ET50, 5x108 Front
- 20x10.5 ET62, 5x108 Rear
Also what are the stock weights of the Varunas?
I am looking at aftermarket Forged Wheels Only, from a hand full of manufacturers:
- Vorsteiner - too expensive
- Vossen - too expensive
- BC Forged - never heard of them till they turned up in this search, and have been reading really good reviews
- Niche Wheels - have heard of them before, but unsure on quality
- Asanti - same as Niche
For now I have it narrowed down to (in no particular order):
- Asanti Monoblock 101
- Asanti Monoblock 114
- BC Forged RZ05
- BC Forged RZ23
- BC Forged RZ21
- BC Forged KL01
- BC Forged RS41
- Niche DTM
- Niche Misano
- 20 x 9.5, 5x108 Front
- 20x11.0, 5x108 Rear
- Color to be Graphite/ Gunmetal/ Dark Grey (pretty much the same thing) or might risk going with a dark Bronze
- Quality/ Build/ Reputation
- Weight Saving
- Cost
#2
Unsure exactly what you're asking but if it's about offset, try here:
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
#3
DO IT!
I bought a set of Zenetti BARON rims after a long search, I ran into the same issues of price and fitment.
9x20f 275/35r20 ...10.5x20r295/35r20
As a solution for the like butter stock Nevis rims I was getting straightened on a bi annual basis, The rim is forged but the center is cast and then friction welded to the rim, and before anyone doubts the strength of a friction weld, its the same procedure used to attach train wheels to their axels. They are much lighter than stock and have survived a summer with NO bending. The stock rims I run for the winter. The bad, I'd do 20x10 with 285's in the rear if I had a re do.. the 10.5 will rub if I hit dips to fast or have a full backseat, AND ONLY USE JAG PRESSURE SENSORS! Cost me $300 to find out that"s all the car will see without a fault.
Fitment guide I used, It gives the correct offset. I went a little wider than the XFR-S option size.
https://www.wheel-size.com/
I bought a set of Zenetti BARON rims after a long search, I ran into the same issues of price and fitment.
9x20f 275/35r20 ...10.5x20r295/35r20
As a solution for the like butter stock Nevis rims I was getting straightened on a bi annual basis, The rim is forged but the center is cast and then friction welded to the rim, and before anyone doubts the strength of a friction weld, its the same procedure used to attach train wheels to their axels. They are much lighter than stock and have survived a summer with NO bending. The stock rims I run for the winter. The bad, I'd do 20x10 with 285's in the rear if I had a re do.. the 10.5 will rub if I hit dips to fast or have a full backseat, AND ONLY USE JAG PRESSURE SENSORS! Cost me $300 to find out that"s all the car will see without a fault.
Fitment guide I used, It gives the correct offset. I went a little wider than the XFR-S option size.
https://www.wheel-size.com/
Last edited by Bigg Will; 12-04-2018 at 03:10 PM.
#4
Unsure exactly what you're asking but if it's about offset, try here:
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
https://www.willtheyfit.com/
DO IT!
I bought a set of Zenetti BARON rims after a long search, I ran into the same issues of price and fitment.
9x20f 275/35r20 ...10.5x20r295/35r20
As a solution for the like butter stock Nevis rims I was getting straightened on a bi annual basis, The rim is forged but the center is cast and then friction welded to the rim, and before anyone doubts the strength of a friction weld, its the same procedure used to attach train wheels to their axels. They are much lighter than stock and have survived a summer with NO bending. The stock rims I run for the winter. The bad, I'd do 20x10 with 285's in the rear if I had a re do.. the 10.5 will rub if I hit dips to fast or have a full backseat, AND ONLY USE JAG PRESSURE SENSORS! Cost me $300 to find out that"s all the car will see without a fault.
Fitment guide I used, It gives the correct offset. I went a little wider than the XFR-S option size.
https://www.wheel-size.com/
I bought a set of Zenetti BARON rims after a long search, I ran into the same issues of price and fitment.
9x20f 275/35r20 ...10.5x20r295/35r20
As a solution for the like butter stock Nevis rims I was getting straightened on a bi annual basis, The rim is forged but the center is cast and then friction welded to the rim, and before anyone doubts the strength of a friction weld, its the same procedure used to attach train wheels to their axels. They are much lighter than stock and have survived a summer with NO bending. The stock rims I run for the winter. The bad, I'd do 20x10 with 285's in the rear if I had a re do.. the 10.5 will rub if I hit dips to fast or have a full backseat, AND ONLY USE JAG PRESSURE SENSORS! Cost me $300 to find out that"s all the car will see without a fault.
Fitment guide I used, It gives the correct offset. I went a little wider than the XFR-S option size.
https://www.wheel-size.com/
I'll play around with the offset calculator for better fitment
#5
#6
Hey, the stock wheels are flow forged but not full forged. So definitely full forged wheels (1, 2, 3 piece forged) will be lighter. I went with 3 piece forged for my xfr-s made by Avante Gard, 20x9 front and 20x11 rear, so i can get good fitment (as flush as possible without rubbing) and clear the front brakes. Unfortunately due to sponsorship rules, i can't disclose offsets. Search my instagram (same name) and you'll be able to see fitment from the front and back. Don't have full pictures yet but can send you some once i'm back from vacation.
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The other side of it is personalizing your car, and making it unique to your taste. So going with tasteful modification or two, to say you put your own personal touch on the vehicle.
No issues, other than the stock wheels are very ugly in my own opinion.
Hey, the stock wheels are flow forged but not full forged. So definitely full forged wheels (1, 2, 3 piece forged) will be lighter. I went with 3 piece forged for my xfr-s made by Avante Gard, 20x9 front and 20x11 rear, so i can get good fitment (as flush as possible without rubbing) and clear the front brakes. Unfortunately due to sponsorship rules, i can't disclose offsets. Search my instagram (same name) and you'll be able to see fitment from the front and back. Don't have full pictures yet but can send you some once i'm back from vacation.
I checked out your Instagram, and I did eventually find the wheels, and with them mounted. Did you get a weight saving per corner on your specific setup. They look like a pretty nice 3 piece?
Thanks Brian, I appreciate the feedback, I'll have to check them out as well.
#11
I am going in with perspective of stock wheels are high 20's, so maybe 27lbs for front and 29lbs for rear, and I am told I can get Forged Wheels that are in in the range of 22 fronts and 24 rears, that's a savings of ~5lbs of un-sprung weight per corner. If I get that then great if I don't well I hope they are (worst case) same weight as stock, but are to my taste.
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Ya I know they are not top notch or up with the big boys but I personally have heard good things and they have fixed a lot of issues when they got taken over by another company a couple years ago! Got them within 3 weeks! Adv1s and vorstenier have some sexy light rims! If only I had That much money to drop on rims haha good luck in your search!
#13
When I get back from my trip I'll be putting the stock wheels on for the winter storage. I'll weigh the wheels then. It'll be a rough weigh in because of different tires (stock set has all seasons that ive had on for a year, summer wheels have new summer tires) and different widths in the rear (10.5 vs 11). Even so, I still think it's lighter, but it could just be my imagination. 3 piece forged are heavier than a 1 piece forged monoblock wheel.
#14
quick comment re: how wide you're planning on going - may have to roll your rear fenders a bit.
i have 10'' wide savini wheels purchased from another member and i rubbed on mid to aggressive bumps, especially under acceleration, on pass rear.
i bought an inexpensive fender roller and heat gun on amazon or ebay and took my time doing it.
no paint cracks and no more rubbing.
still have left over abrasions on outside of my rear 295 tires though
i have 10'' wide savini wheels purchased from another member and i rubbed on mid to aggressive bumps, especially under acceleration, on pass rear.
i bought an inexpensive fender roller and heat gun on amazon or ebay and took my time doing it.
no paint cracks and no more rubbing.
still have left over abrasions on outside of my rear 295 tires though
#15
I also have 10" Savinis with 295's and have never had rubbing, even with passengers in the back or carrying a fair amount of cargo in addition to having an extra 80 lbs in the spare tire well with my sub box. YMMV
#16
quick comment re: how wide you're planning on going - may have to roll your rear fenders a bit.
i have 10'' wide savini wheels purchased from another member and i rubbed on mid to aggressive bumps, especially under acceleration, on pass rear.
i bought an inexpensive fender roller and heat gun on amazon or ebay and took my time doing it.
no paint cracks and no more rubbing.
still have left over abrasions on outside of my rear 295 tires though
i have 10'' wide savini wheels purchased from another member and i rubbed on mid to aggressive bumps, especially under acceleration, on pass rear.
i bought an inexpensive fender roller and heat gun on amazon or ebay and took my time doing it.
no paint cracks and no more rubbing.
still have left over abrasions on outside of my rear 295 tires though
Wheel width is only part of why wheels may or may not fit... Offset is another huge part, this more or less dictates how for out the wheel will stick in relation to it's centerline in vertical plane. Also if your car is lowered this will affect how wheel will fit. Wheel wells have a natural curvature to them, and the more your recess the wheel into the wheel well the greater chance you will have of rubbing.
In my case the RS already comes with 10.5" (rear) wheels from the factory, but obviously Jaguar new how to setup the car so it doesn't rub. I am not lowered, nor do I intend to lower the car. I stated this in my first post, but based on information I could find online of the Varuna (Stock XFRS) wheels, they are:
20x9 ET50, 5x108 (front) and
20x10.5 ET62, 5x108 (rear),
I plan on going with:
20x9.5, ET45 (details TBC)
20X11, ET56 (details TBC)
Any reputable wheel manufacturer, and competent shop, should be able to guarantee wheel fitment without having to roll fenders.
#17
Wheels have been purchased...
In the F-Type section of the forum, I came across a group buy thread: VS Forged Wheels Group Buy
I used PK Auto Design's website, and went through some of the configurations for the VS Forged Line, but I couldn't select the offsets that I wanted. Well I naturally called to discuss the matter in detail with an experienced wheel and tire professional, and I am so glad I called, because coincidentally PK Auto Design also sell BC Forged, amongst many other forged wheels, and got to talking with a great guy, that ultimately said if it was his money between the VS Forged, or other Forged Wheel Manufacturers and BC Forged, he would pay the extra for the BC Forged every day. They also happen to be the largest NA distributor of BC Forged.
They got back to me with the details yesterday, and I finally pulled the trigger last night.
I will update with pictures and details upon receipt of the forged wheels, in maybe 6 weeks (could be more due to holidays)...
I am going with a bold choice, so we will see what the finished product looks like. Will keep everyone posted.
In the F-Type section of the forum, I came across a group buy thread: VS Forged Wheels Group Buy
I used PK Auto Design's website, and went through some of the configurations for the VS Forged Line, but I couldn't select the offsets that I wanted. Well I naturally called to discuss the matter in detail with an experienced wheel and tire professional, and I am so glad I called, because coincidentally PK Auto Design also sell BC Forged, amongst many other forged wheels, and got to talking with a great guy, that ultimately said if it was his money between the VS Forged, or other Forged Wheel Manufacturers and BC Forged, he would pay the extra for the BC Forged every day. They also happen to be the largest NA distributor of BC Forged.
They got back to me with the details yesterday, and I finally pulled the trigger last night.
I will update with pictures and details upon receipt of the forged wheels, in maybe 6 weeks (could be more due to holidays)...
I am going with a bold choice, so we will see what the finished product looks like. Will keep everyone posted.
#20
Well a more meaningful update...
I picked up the wheels this afternoon, and first impressions... The wheels are amazing!!!
I unpacked the rear wheel first. Specs on the wheel are 20 x 11, and it weighted in at 24lbs, see below photos:
Next I quickly test fit it, to make sure stance and fitment are correct, see below photos:
I then unpacked one of the front wheels, and the specs are: 20 x 9.5, they weighed in at 23.8lbs, see below photo:
Again, I test fit the front wheel to check for stance and fitment:
Next I will be dropping off all four Wheels at my tire shop to have my MP4S and the TPMS swapped over from my stock XFR-S Wheels, and then I can actually weigh what the stock wheels weigh, and I can finally determine what I have accomplished from a weight saving perspective.
I think once the rubber is on the wheels, and the car is set back on the ground the car will look phenomenal.
I picked up the wheels this afternoon, and first impressions... The wheels are amazing!!!
I unpacked the rear wheel first. Specs on the wheel are 20 x 11, and it weighted in at 24lbs, see below photos:
Next I quickly test fit it, to make sure stance and fitment are correct, see below photos:
I then unpacked one of the front wheels, and the specs are: 20 x 9.5, they weighed in at 23.8lbs, see below photo:
Again, I test fit the front wheel to check for stance and fitment:
Next I will be dropping off all four Wheels at my tire shop to have my MP4S and the TPMS swapped over from my stock XFR-S Wheels, and then I can actually weigh what the stock wheels weigh, and I can finally determine what I have accomplished from a weight saving perspective.
I think once the rubber is on the wheels, and the car is set back on the ground the car will look phenomenal.
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