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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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My 2010 XF Premium has the 19" wheels. The owners manual does not call for tire rotation. I asked the dealer and he said: We check at first service (15,000 miles) and if the fronts are worn more than the rear by a certain %, then we recommend rotating them.
Isn't 15,000 miles too late? this is a heavy high performance car. What do you guys recommend, so I can get the most out of these (expensive) tires besides checking tire pressure of course....
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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I did not see anything in the handbook about rotating the tires either, but since they are all the same size (I looked for this purpose), I will be rotating mine at each 10k service.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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I rotate the tires on all my vehicles twice per year due to snow tire changeovers.

This means about every 5,000 miles.

I get perfectly even tire wear on all my cars.

I would rotate tires at least once each year or every 10,000 miles whichever comes first.

If you have staggered tires (different widths or diameters) then you cannot usefully rotate tires. What rotation does is keep tread depth similar on all tires and eliminates the issue of not being able to get two matching tires which you need if you do not rotate. It works best to buy new tires in sets of four identical new tires.

On the XF the rears will wear about twice as fast as the fronts would be my guess.

For fwd vehicles the wear rate differential can be 3 or 4 times as fast for the drive wheels as for the rear wheels due to driving, steering and braking being done by the fronts. For rwd cars the tires on the rear driving wheels usually wear faster.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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to the contrary - the dealer's service advisor told me the front tires wear faster on these cars! Unless you are in the habbit of doing burnouts, this is the case in most cars - even the rear wheel drive ones, also in my experience.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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All my cars have been rwd, and all of them the fronts show wear faster than the rears. Seems to make sense due to steering and cornering.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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I have only ever replaced tyres in pairs, front or rear, when they have worn near to the wear limit. Trouble with rotating tyres is you have to buy a full set of 4 when they all wear out at once !
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Hey that's another way at looking at it. Personally I like my tires to all look about the same, so for me, a whole set is the only way to go. Except if it's the wifes car, then who cares. she has many a time busted a tire on a curb or such thing and ended up with mis-matched tires.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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And there's more........

When I had a 1980 XJ6, I remember the official workshop manual advised NOT to rotate tyres due to the wear patterns causing problems if the tyre is placed elsewhere.

Mind you then also advised replacing in complete car sets. Doh !!!!
 
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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I know next to nothing about the Jaguar XF, except for the fact that I would love to own one;-)

However I do remember reading somewhere on this Forum that someone was having an electronics problem, with traction control or diff or some such, because of uneven tyre diameters due to wear.

Snag is I only read it in passing, and it didn't fully stick.

Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable members with modern Jaguar experience will be able to fill out?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Well, the front tires do about 80% of the braking as well as steering the car so perhaps the fronts will wear faster. I will never know because I rotate the tires so the wear is even.

Some ABS and traction control systems are sensitive to unequal tire rolling diameter. So is awd due to constant relative rotation of the differentials if one or two tires are markedly larger than the others.

As for the noise issue, the point of frequent rotation is to avoid the tires getting a set wear pattern in the first place.
 
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