Xf 5.0 dealer says cracked piston!
#1
Xf 5.0 dealer says cracked piston!
Misfire cylinder number 1 loped at idle seemed fine while driving, 79,000, dealer swapped coils and plugs around problem stayed so they punt a new injector on that didnt fix it now they say that bore scope revealed a crack in the top of the piston but you cant tell its a crack just by looking at a pic according to the service writer, still hasnt been shown to me, im very skeptical no pinging no knock no explanation other than he said must be a manufacturing defect,
#3
Hmmm... So if it's cracked to the point that it causes a problem, then you would have a ton of blowby through the crack pressurizing the crankcase. If you take off the oil filler cap, do you feel a lot of air blowing out of it? If not, I am skeptical that's the problem, especially since the alleged crack is too small to see.
Last edited by lotusespritse; 04-17-2019 at 08:04 PM.
#4
Repair or replace?
Hmmm... So if it's cracked to the point that it causes a problem, then you would have a ton of blowby through the crack pressurizing the crankcase. If you take off the oil filler cap, do you feel a lot of air blowing out of it? If not, I am skeptical that's the problem, especially since the alleged crack is too small to see.
#5
#7
Trending Topics
#8
Very interesting. A big job to remove the heads on these engines. Are you doing it yourself? Your engine bay is going to look like that guy's stomach after the alien popped out of it, but at least you'll be able to fix the problem.
#9
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Newport Beach, California
Posts: 5,574
Received 2,578 Likes
on
1,783 Posts
#10
Yeah I'd agree with this. it looks like that cylinder's had something in it that it shouldn't have - that looks like a load of small indentations in the top of the piston. Pulling the head is going to be necessary at this point anyway, but I'd be interested to see what's happened to it and the exhaust valve.
#11
#1 forward exhaust valve guide worn causing valve to stick open, contact with piston apparently very slight because of the lack of any marks on the piston, but none the less the valve is bent enough to not seal. Cylinder walls look good, chain guides have the indention from the tensioner andh are getting replaced
#12
#1 forward exhaust valve guide worn causing valve to stick open, contact with piston apparently very slight because of the lack of any marks on the piston, but none the less the valve is bent enough to not seal. Cylinder walls look good, chain guides have the indention from the tensioner andh are getting replaced
#13
#14
#15
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Damon /Houston, Texas
Posts: 7,254
Received 2,183 Likes
on
1,355 Posts
The following users liked this post:
Christopher Mcroberts (06-16-2019)
#16
Well I have found the reason for the bent valve. Too crunched up to determine what it was but its not magnetic,, Probably a small washer,,, Much too my dismay all this work is being performed by yours truly in a carport no less as i recently purchased a home and haven't built a proper garage yet. On a good note the head is back and ready for installation,,, Now the part where i ask for advice,, Rewinding the clock, Purchased car used from second hand dealer in late Jan. 2019 ,, in to local jag dealer for oil change just before a 1400 mile drive to orlando disney for vacation,,, arrival in orlando day 1 A/C quits, no big deal head straight to nearest dealer, Jag aston martin in orlando, get loaner and fast foward last day of vaca car is finished new compressor installed,, drive home next morning,, arrive home 3 days later this whole mess ensues,, Next course of action?
#17
Well I have found the reason for the bent valve. Too crunched up to determine what it was but its not magnetic,, Probably a small washer,,, Much too my dismay all this work is being performed by yours truly in a carport no less as i recently purchased a home and haven't built a proper garage yet. On a good note the head is back and ready for installation,,, Now the part where i ask for advice,, Rewinding the clock, Purchased car used from second hand dealer in late Jan. 2019 ,, in to local jag dealer for oil change just before a 1400 mile drive to orlando disney for vacation,,, arrival in orlando day 1 A/C quits, no big deal head straight to nearest dealer, Jag aston martin in orlando, get loaner and fast foward last day of vaca car is finished new compressor installed,, drive home next morning,, arrive home 3 days later this whole mess ensues,, Next course of action?
This is all very confusing for me. Where did you find that debris? In the catalytic converter?
if you don’t know where it came from, how do you know there isn’t more debris in the other side of the engine? I would want to positively identify the source before calling this job done.
Most metal washers are magnetic, so that doesn’t make sense that it’s a washer.
Are you suggesting the people that fixed the AC are to blame for the debris? They most likely had to take off the air boxes to do that work.
#18
#19
#20
Next steps, Contact a good lawyer, let car sit for a probable lengthy amount of time. Or press on with the repairs, things to consider,,, Costs associated with each, length of time,,, plausible outcomes,, basically im asking a what would you do type of question.
You’ll have a 1% chance of proving it was the dealer’s fault. They’ll argue the engine worked just fine all the way home for you and it’s very likely unrelated to them.
Plus you’ll have to travel to their area for the court proceedings.
You might give their management a call and see if you can milk some money out of them, at least a refund for the work they did, but you’ll have to threaten to blast them on social media.
My cars are very reliable because I keep them out of the hands of mechanics. Chances are they cut corners on your AC repair and it will probably fail again in a year or 2. Mechanics know that about ACs and laugh all the way to the bank knowing you’ll never pin a future failure on their bad work a year or two down the road.