Best tires for XJR575
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Didn't know that but add to those ratings the price gap between COSTCO and Tire Kingdom, is very, very significant! For the same tires, COSTCO has them beat by $300 to $400. Tire Kingdom charges for Road Hazard
Warranty that's a "no charge" for COSTCO. And since I'm a guy that would cut of my nose to spite my face, T.K.'s Shop Fee of $8, is enough to kill the deal. And by the way, although there's no guarantee, COSTCO
runs specials on Michelins every other month or so; that can knock another hundred or so from the price.
Now, I just need to convince myself if the Pilot Sport 4S is the tire for me.
Warranty that's a "no charge" for COSTCO. And since I'm a guy that would cut of my nose to spite my face, T.K.'s Shop Fee of $8, is enough to kill the deal. And by the way, although there's no guarantee, COSTCO
runs specials on Michelins every other month or so; that can knock another hundred or so from the price.
Now, I just need to convince myself if the Pilot Sport 4S is the tire for me.
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The inexperienced employees who are just learning at places like COSTCO and Sams Club are the people that scratched up my pristine wheels and are the reason I ceased to visit those places for tires.
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Freddy,
If the customer satisfaction reports can be trusted to any degree, it appears that your bad experience was a random event. I tend to find "young inexperienced people" are usually supervised by "older more experienced people".
As I said earlier, I was more than happy with the service I received.
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If the customer satisfaction reports can be trusted to any degree, it appears that your bad experience was a random event. I tend to find "young inexperienced people" are usually supervised by "older more experienced people".
As I said earlier, I was more than happy with the service I received.
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Easy! I buy from people who know tires. If you want to buy from a grocery store you can. I use to do that until I learned why people and companies specialize in certain things. It does make a difference.
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I think it there is a sweet spot where the right equipment and the right personnel will get you outstanding service. Where you can find that is always a crap shoot.
It COULD happen at a Costco kind of place I guess. It MIGHT happen at a "tire place". Consider yourself very lucky if you do find it anywhere nowadays.
I was fortunate to find a place in Tampa that hits all the marks, and tires are not even their primary business. They have the right equipment to protect the wheels (surprising how many do NOT), and the right mindset (road force balance, hand torque every lug, clean the wheels inside and out, even dress the tires). I don't care where I get this level of service, I just want that level of service, and am willing to pay for it when dealing with the XJL
It COULD happen at a Costco kind of place I guess. It MIGHT happen at a "tire place". Consider yourself very lucky if you do find it anywhere nowadays.
I was fortunate to find a place in Tampa that hits all the marks, and tires are not even their primary business. They have the right equipment to protect the wheels (surprising how many do NOT), and the right mindset (road force balance, hand torque every lug, clean the wheels inside and out, even dress the tires). I don't care where I get this level of service, I just want that level of service, and am willing to pay for it when dealing with the XJL
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You hit the nail on the head, Rothwell. Exactly right, you have to find the the place no matter where it might be with the personnel, expertise, and equipment to give you the service you want. Like you, I have been lucky enough to find the place. I get my tires from Tire Rack and have them drop shipped to the shop with my personal mechanic who is the only one who touches my car.
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I agree that the OE Pirelli P-Zero Nero tires aren't very good. However, I really like their upgraded P-Zero All-Season Plus tires on my car. The tread patterns are completely different, and the newer AS+ model probably has some internal improvements as well.
As Tire Rack noted, they are extremely quiet and provide a great ride, while still exhibiting very good performance numbers. Four years ago, they were also significantly less expensive than the Michelins. I've experienced even 2-3/32" wear in 15k miles. They do "tramp" after sitting for a week in cold weather, but warm up pretty quickly. Have not driven them in snow, but their wet performance is completely satisfactory to me.
As Tire Rack noted, they are extremely quiet and provide a great ride, while still exhibiting very good performance numbers. Four years ago, they were also significantly less expensive than the Michelins. I've experienced even 2-3/32" wear in 15k miles. They do "tramp" after sitting for a week in cold weather, but warm up pretty quickly. Have not driven them in snow, but their wet performance is completely satisfactory to me.
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...YUUUCK. What's with this impulse to always grab The Noisy Grippy Racy Summer Tire Winners, just because they claim to beat the other racers.... and we KNOW not all of us do racing. The author erven said he doesn't, LOL!
I don't race.
If you live and drive in scenic and almost never down to 40 degree climates, and you MUST have a summer tire (...ugh, those tires are such dainty prima-donnas), I would suggest you pick from only THREE models of summer perf tire. (Don't fool with any other summer tires unless you do track/competition driving, or have intense very specific street-handling needs from your car)
Continental Premium Contact-6,
Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack, or
Bridgestone Turanza EE33 tires are what I call the smooth-end specialists from High Performance Summer tires. They are great for commuters who do a LOT of repeated short trips, or for folks who do long distance journeys, and offer good puncture-resistance. They are NOT for tracks or wild driving, (not like the top-rated summer perf tires) so they never get top praise for responsiveness but their treads will LAST LONGER. DON"T go for them if you have long snow drives to do. But apparently they are amazing when you have lots of hot long summer driving to do. They get reviewed as some of the quietest non-harsh riding UHP tires around, so it's worth checking them out. They also don't have aggressive-looking sidewall designs, which happens to be a personal gripe with me---I hate summer tires that try so hard to look immature racy when I try hard to keep a sharp, grown-up look to my performance car for driving my sweetie around.
Now, on the other hand:
If you live and drive in a climate that exposes your tires to below 50 F temps overnight, or give you 2 inches of snow, or if you live in what I call High-Drive country (sweet Pennsylvania highways, Tennessee hills, winding Colorado, Switzerland resort area, Spain and France coastline, Hungary, or my fav Ohio with its winding highways over old bridges and 5-mile long tunnels)... I would NOT recommend you waste your time on summer tires at all, not unless you have a brand you are REALLY familiar with and mated to. 40-50 degree climate, and touring on those gorgeous roads, would just make summer tire riding feel sore, shaky, and noisier than they need to be. PART of the pleasure of taking winding scenic roads, requires tires smooth and quiet enough for you to enjoy the wind, your engine, your songs playing. Right?
All Season Performance tires are a new thing, and give you lots of the "spirit+confidence" that you tend to want to feel from a stylish car. But they are LESS prissy or prima-donna than summer perf tires.
Vredstein Hypertrac is a tire I like reading about. I don't always feel their sidewall designs are flattering for elegant mature Jaguar sedans, but apart from that I love everything about their products, especially for install on earlier model cars and classic collector vehicle with those oddball tire sizes. Their uncomplicated looking tread patterns amazingly grab such fine reviews all the time. Their name is still so unknown today that they still cost so little compared with other competitors. Yet they almost never get bad reviews about safety in snow or wet. Nearly everything you want an all-year tire to be, plus some spirit.
Continental ExtremeContact DWS-06 Plus is more expensive than Vredstien ever would be, but those German tires have proven really reliable and stable here on Northern US climates. I usually like everything about Continental except their lack of strength in slippery light snow---yet people have been saying this new DWS-06 Plus is VERY good in light snow, so the company must have finally got the snow right. Continental also tends to give a really fun sports feel from an all-season tire. Their all-season tires tend to have good weight of 24 lbs on R18, which feels calm and relaxed on a medium sedan, not finicky and thumpy like a sports tire. I don't like the way the tread grooves look around the edge of the sidewalls (kind of like folds in an apple-pie crust. But apart from that tiny peeve, Continental's sidewall design is very conservative (more conservative than Vredstein's) and grownup, so to me they are perfect for earlier model Jags like X-types, and long streamlined bodies like XJ's.
I don't race.
If you live and drive in scenic and almost never down to 40 degree climates, and you MUST have a summer tire (...ugh, those tires are such dainty prima-donnas), I would suggest you pick from only THREE models of summer perf tire. (Don't fool with any other summer tires unless you do track/competition driving, or have intense very specific street-handling needs from your car)
Continental Premium Contact-6,
Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack, or
Bridgestone Turanza EE33 tires are what I call the smooth-end specialists from High Performance Summer tires. They are great for commuters who do a LOT of repeated short trips, or for folks who do long distance journeys, and offer good puncture-resistance. They are NOT for tracks or wild driving, (not like the top-rated summer perf tires) so they never get top praise for responsiveness but their treads will LAST LONGER. DON"T go for them if you have long snow drives to do. But apparently they are amazing when you have lots of hot long summer driving to do. They get reviewed as some of the quietest non-harsh riding UHP tires around, so it's worth checking them out. They also don't have aggressive-looking sidewall designs, which happens to be a personal gripe with me---I hate summer tires that try so hard to look immature racy when I try hard to keep a sharp, grown-up look to my performance car for driving my sweetie around.
Now, on the other hand:
If you live and drive in a climate that exposes your tires to below 50 F temps overnight, or give you 2 inches of snow, or if you live in what I call High-Drive country (sweet Pennsylvania highways, Tennessee hills, winding Colorado, Switzerland resort area, Spain and France coastline, Hungary, or my fav Ohio with its winding highways over old bridges and 5-mile long tunnels)... I would NOT recommend you waste your time on summer tires at all, not unless you have a brand you are REALLY familiar with and mated to. 40-50 degree climate, and touring on those gorgeous roads, would just make summer tire riding feel sore, shaky, and noisier than they need to be. PART of the pleasure of taking winding scenic roads, requires tires smooth and quiet enough for you to enjoy the wind, your engine, your songs playing. Right?
All Season Performance tires are a new thing, and give you lots of the "spirit+confidence" that you tend to want to feel from a stylish car. But they are LESS prissy or prima-donna than summer perf tires.
Vredstein Hypertrac is a tire I like reading about. I don't always feel their sidewall designs are flattering for elegant mature Jaguar sedans, but apart from that I love everything about their products, especially for install on earlier model cars and classic collector vehicle with those oddball tire sizes. Their uncomplicated looking tread patterns amazingly grab such fine reviews all the time. Their name is still so unknown today that they still cost so little compared with other competitors. Yet they almost never get bad reviews about safety in snow or wet. Nearly everything you want an all-year tire to be, plus some spirit.
Continental ExtremeContact DWS-06 Plus is more expensive than Vredstien ever would be, but those German tires have proven really reliable and stable here on Northern US climates. I usually like everything about Continental except their lack of strength in slippery light snow---yet people have been saying this new DWS-06 Plus is VERY good in light snow, so the company must have finally got the snow right. Continental also tends to give a really fun sports feel from an all-season tire. Their all-season tires tend to have good weight of 24 lbs on R18, which feels calm and relaxed on a medium sedan, not finicky and thumpy like a sports tire. I don't like the way the tread grooves look around the edge of the sidewalls (kind of like folds in an apple-pie crust. But apart from that tiny peeve, Continental's sidewall design is very conservative (more conservative than Vredstein's) and grownup, so to me they are perfect for earlier model Jags like X-types, and long streamlined bodies like XJ's.
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Thanks for keeping us apprised. I wish you the best of luck with the Continentals. If you’re ever dissatisfied, I’ll again state my highest recommendation for the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500. Only trying to help. =) I hope your new tires are terrific! Enjoy!
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I've said it before, and I'll try to continue saying it: The HUGE swell of praises for Michelin PS4-S and similar, because they win the 1st place in the Summer Performance tire pro-reviews, and because the owners who tend to use these on their track and challenging speeding TEND to be the ones who speak up first and most on many forums,.... result in VERY FEW reviews by us posters about the tires that are rated 6th, 9th, 16th place in the pro reviews.
We have to admit to ourselves, MOST OF US do not push our cars into the track and "edge-of-the-envelope" driving,... so even a 17th place tire in those top-20 reviews can be AMAZING tires for the basic spirited driving we plan to use them for.
So, once you buy that Continental, or Firestone, or Falken, etc tire that WASN'T the 3rd place winner in the ratings---PLEASE get back to us, and tell us all the juicy details about your drive with them. Positives and the negatives.
Break em in good, try out different air pressures until you find the air setup you prefer, try em in bad rain, lousy street holes, etc. The more multiple opinions we get from fellow street-n-country owners, the more the rest of us can make our strategies, and opt for more beneficial tires than the pinnacle prima donna summer perfs all the time.
Personally I'm turned off from reading any more "PS4-S is the tire you should buy"....and I happen to LIKE the company Michelin. LOL!!
I don't want to read any more details about Michelins. But I think many of us are dying to read in-depth stuff from Jaguar owners with Falkens, Firestones, the new "Perf All-Season" species call the DSW-06 Plus. Every gritty detail! Yes, even the Maxxis and the Nokians that end up 17th and 19th place on the Reviewers websites!
We have to admit to ourselves, MOST OF US do not push our cars into the track and "edge-of-the-envelope" driving,... so even a 17th place tire in those top-20 reviews can be AMAZING tires for the basic spirited driving we plan to use them for.
So, once you buy that Continental, or Firestone, or Falken, etc tire that WASN'T the 3rd place winner in the ratings---PLEASE get back to us, and tell us all the juicy details about your drive with them. Positives and the negatives.
Break em in good, try out different air pressures until you find the air setup you prefer, try em in bad rain, lousy street holes, etc. The more multiple opinions we get from fellow street-n-country owners, the more the rest of us can make our strategies, and opt for more beneficial tires than the pinnacle prima donna summer perfs all the time.
Personally I'm turned off from reading any more "PS4-S is the tire you should buy"....and I happen to LIKE the company Michelin. LOL!!
I don't want to read any more details about Michelins. But I think many of us are dying to read in-depth stuff from Jaguar owners with Falkens, Firestones, the new "Perf All-Season" species call the DSW-06 Plus. Every gritty detail! Yes, even the Maxxis and the Nokians that end up 17th and 19th place on the Reviewers websites!
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It's been about 300 miles and the difference between the stock P-Zero's and my new DSW-06 Plus is significant.
The DSW-06 Plus is smoother (that gliding smooth), quieter and soaks up bumps and pot holes with aplomb. I also like the fact that it didn't change "the look" of the car either. Sporty yet classy. Since having them, it has rained here (light drizzle and downpour) and in all instances, the grip and braking feeling was perfect. I'm happy with my decision!
It's been about 300 miles and the difference between the stock P-Zero's and my new DSW-06 Plus is significant.
The DSW-06 Plus is smoother (that gliding smooth), quieter and soaks up bumps and pot holes with aplomb. I also like the fact that it didn't change "the look" of the car either. Sporty yet classy. Since having them, it has rained here (light drizzle and downpour) and in all instances, the grip and braking feeling was perfect. I'm happy with my decision!
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Congrats, Mate! The DWS-06 Plus was so new at the time I heard abou them, that no one seemed to be giving any write-up about them (OK, the PRO-reviewers were giving their opinions---but professionals don't count, right? Hehehe).
With me, the look of this tire on the shelf or in those company ads always made me worry a bit. I don't like tires with aggressive edges or racy embossing when they are going on on a stylish sedan or grown-up sports car. Even 2015XJR L's photos of his Firehawks look just a tad evil for me...but LOL that may be just the black gloss car and the mean wheels he selected to achieve his look. I wondered what the 06-Plus looks like once it's mounted. Nice to hear that these Contis have some classy look to them---because an XKR is such a grown-up work of art to look at.
The posters on these forums who crave photos are right, though----it's PICTURE time. If you're able to get some shots to post from a nice Spring or Summer day for us, HAPPINESS!
Did you have to pay a lot for the 06-Plus, relatively? And did you do anything different about the sizing? I don't recall if XKRs are different OEM sizes in the front than the rears.
With me, the look of this tire on the shelf or in those company ads always made me worry a bit. I don't like tires with aggressive edges or racy embossing when they are going on on a stylish sedan or grown-up sports car. Even 2015XJR L's photos of his Firehawks look just a tad evil for me...but LOL that may be just the black gloss car and the mean wheels he selected to achieve his look. I wondered what the 06-Plus looks like once it's mounted. Nice to hear that these Contis have some classy look to them---because an XKR is such a grown-up work of art to look at.
The posters on these forums who crave photos are right, though----it's PICTURE time. If you're able to get some shots to post from a nice Spring or Summer day for us, HAPPINESS!
Did you have to pay a lot for the 06-Plus, relatively? And did you do anything different about the sizing? I don't recall if XKRs are different OEM sizes in the front than the rears.
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Congrats, Mate! The DWS-06 Plus was so new at the time I heard abou them, that no one seemed to be giving any write-up about them (OK, the PRO-reviewers were giving their opinions---but professionals don't count, right? Hehehe).
With me, the look of this tire on the shelf or in those company ads always made me worry a bit. I don't like tires with aggressive edges or racy embossing when they are going on on a stylish sedan or grown-up sports car. Even 2015XJR L's photos of his Firehawks look just a tad evil for me...but LOL that may be just the black gloss car and the mean wheels he selected to achieve his look. I wondered what the 06-Plus looks like once it's mounted. Nice to hear that these Contis have some classy look to them---because an XKR is such a grown-up work of art to look at.
The posters on these forums who crave photos are right, though----it's PICTURE time. If you're able to get some shots to post from a nice Spring or Summer day for us, HAPPINESS!
Did you have to pay a lot for the 06-Plus, relatively? And did you do anything different about the sizing? I don't recall if XKRs are different OEM sizes in the front than the rears.
With me, the look of this tire on the shelf or in those company ads always made me worry a bit. I don't like tires with aggressive edges or racy embossing when they are going on on a stylish sedan or grown-up sports car. Even 2015XJR L's photos of his Firehawks look just a tad evil for me...but LOL that may be just the black gloss car and the mean wheels he selected to achieve his look. I wondered what the 06-Plus looks like once it's mounted. Nice to hear that these Contis have some classy look to them---because an XKR is such a grown-up work of art to look at.
The posters on these forums who crave photos are right, though----it's PICTURE time. If you're able to get some shots to post from a nice Spring or Summer day for us, HAPPINESS!
Did you have to pay a lot for the 06-Plus, relatively? And did you do anything different about the sizing? I don't recall if XKRs are different OEM sizes in the front than the rears.
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