Title: K117NAS1 - Service Action: Panoramic Roof 'Creak'
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Navigation path: Bulletins → Field Actions → Service Action Bulletins
Publication date: 07-Mar-2012 15:41:28

TOPIx - TOPIx

 

Thats nothing new, just a added part to increase tension on the front blind gear motor. The original is still the fix. Dont get everyones panties in a wad over "you meen my last repair didnt work?"

 

Well you should **** your panties because this is now what the 3rd time you tried the fix and it don't work, Jag should just do a recall because it's a design flaw

 

Anyone have this done? Does it work?

 

first, Im not jaguar, when you refer to "you" second, as I stated, the original k117 is still the repair that has worked. And yes it is the third. The revision to the k117 is a small plastic clip to go around the forward sunblind motor to keep the gearset tighter to the track and not strip leaving the blind inop. The k117 in a nextop service action to be done next time the customer comes in wether its a complaint or not. Cant get much closer than a recall than that. And you cant have everyone come in at once. Nor is a pop a safty issue either to warrant a recall. And the k117 is still the good repair be it #1 or #6

 

Sorry I'm just upset it is the 3rd time they fixed rhe roof after giving me a new car.
Any way after the last fix which they said was the kit that will work, I get a creak that just started last week every time I pull in the driveway .
I can feel the glass in the front sunroof shift with my hand on it as it creaks.
Sorry I took it out on you. Any sugestions?
Thanks

 

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Title:* JTB00231NAS1 - Squeaks & Rattles Kit Availability
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Navigation path:* Bulletins*→*Technical Bulletins*→*501 - Body System
Publication date:* 25-Jan-2012 13:40:12

This was on topix as well, will this fix it Brutal?

 

I'm taking mine in tomorrow morning for 15,000 check up and the roof. This is my third roof fix so we'll see what happens. It's not any where near as bad as before but it's there in the rear. I'll let you know what they say..........

 

I apprieciate that, I do spend alot of time to try and give inside and pertanant info. And realise I can be a target, but
Anyway yes it is still THE fix that has worked the best so far and I havent had any return complaints. This can be
1, its fixed, or
2, its way better and maybe an occassional noise that is so improved and infrequent that the customer is happy.
The glass with this fix WILL move, the problem before was a too firm attachment. The whole assembly is now recieve tefflon washer under track mounts and under bolts. the bolts have blue locktight and the serations are no longer there under the new bolts but are smooth. This allows the assemly to slightly move and not creak or pop when the body flexes. The first 2 repairs involved increasing tension to the assembly which DID NOT fix and even made pops worse with time. K117 was a polar opposite repair and has seemed to be the fix that works. The botls have a VERY specific torque(4-6nm) and any deviations like too tight and it defeats the whole purpose of the repair. Which is to allow slippage between the roof and glass panel mechanism. Hope Im alittle clearer with this explanation than the first

 

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Title:* JTB00231NAS1 - Squeaks & Rattles Kit Availability
Global reference:* JTB00231NAS1
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Publication date:* 25-Jan-2012 13:40:12

This was on topix as well, will this fix it Brutal?
Thank you

 

aceeg, that is nothing more than a squeek and rattle kit that we use to apply in all kinds of affected areas of jags regardless of model. mostly trim, dash, door panel etc... Jaguar also uses this in production/assembly of the cars. This is why I laugh at a few posts here regarding use of tapes, lubes etc in the roof and other repairs of this type. like " I dont accept the use of foam/tape, etc on the repair for noises on my $80-120k car!" Really? how do you think factories of ALL cars make them quieter?
AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
S-TYPE (X200) VIN: L00600 – N91220
Model Year: 2000 – 2008
X-TYPE (X400) VIN: C00344 – E99999; J00001 – J38794
Model Year: 2002 - 2008
XF (X250) VIN: R00001 - Onwards
Model Year: 2009 – Onwards
XJ (X350) VIN: G00442 – H30057
Model Year: 2004 – 2009
XJ (X351) VIN: V00001 – Onwards
Model Year: 2010 – Onwards
XK (X100) VIN: 001246 – 042775; A00016 – A48684
Model Year: 1997 – 2006
XK (X150) VIN: B00379 – Onwards
Model Year: 2007 - Onwards
CONDITION SUMMARY:
Situation: During a vehicle's lifetime, some vehicle components may have been removed for various reasons,
and thus may have disturbed various other components fitted to the interior / exterior of the vehicle.
Differences also occur within the interior or exterior temperature of the vehicle. All of these symptoms may
lead to various squeaks and rattles issues.
See the list below for the description of the different types of plastics the Squeaks & Rattles Kit is designed for.
• ABS: Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene
• ABS-PC: Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene – PolyCarbonate
• TPO: Thermoplastic PolyOlefin
NOTE: See below for a list of the products in the Squeaks & Rattles Kit.
A squeaks and rattles kit has been developed with Newgate Simms. This kit will be automatically shipped to
each retailer, enabling retailers to use the same professional fluids and tapes that are currently used in vehicle
manufacturing to solve any squeaks and rattles issues.
Refer to Service Bulletin 1-248NAS for details of how to order additional kits or replenish the items in the kit
when necessary.

THE K117 is still the fix done properly

 

Brutal,
I had this done I believe back in October

TSB JTB00236 - Fit washers to roof and roof alignment.
1 C2D23230 Kit
Part #C2D16894
So now this new k117 should fix it for good?

 

I took my car in this morning and the service tech told me there was a new kit that has come out in the last couple of weeks for the roof......... I had the last one done last Nov. which was suppose to be the fix all and she said this was different. I didn't question her because they didn't have my loaner that they were suppose to have and they would have to order the kit so I told her to call me when the kit gets in and I'll bring it back.

 

had the most current fix done last week and.........still got creaks coming from rear roof area

 

I'm sick of this

 

Will be interested to see what the newest roof install/bulletin does. I had the slightest of sounds and the dealer wanted to fix it. Picking it up this morning and will see! Good luck to all!

 

Brutal,
I had this done I believe back in October

TSB JTB00236 - Fit washers to roof and roof alignment.
1 C2D23230 Kit
Part #C2D16894
So now is this new k117 or jtb00236 the right fix I'm confused.
Thanks

 

Got mine back this morning. I can't really tell much of a difference but, luckily, it was minor before the "fix," so barely noticeable to begin with. Hope it doesn't develop in what is otherwise a stellar saloon!

 

this was released on mar 7 2012
the last fix
TSB JTB00236 - Fit washers to roof and roof alignment.
1 C2D23230 Kit
Part #C2D16894
was last october so im confused?

 

When I read all of these posts, I myself come to the conclusion that this 'panoramic' glass roof is a poor piece of design. My X350, (previous XJ model and certainly NOT fault-free), suffers no pops and squeaks from the roof at any time. It is a solid piece of aluminium sheet, welded to the rest of the car via the front and rear pillars. My car has no sun-roof, but owners of those X350s that have them never seem to report any popping.

Maybe time for Jaguar to do a redesign of the bodyshell for a second iteration of what is a really fine car in all other aspects.