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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 08:05 PM
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I have a 2015 Portfolio XJL. For an $86K car, some things make no sense.
1. The dash is a computer screen, but offers no real customization for the display.
2. Fog lights are in the tail lights. WTF?
3. It has TPMS modules on each wheel, but it doesn't display tire pressures. WTF again.
4. I have to use a multi-meter to determine battery voltage. Really?
5. Dash display letters and numbers require 20/20 vision to read them. My 68 year old eyes struggle.
6. The chrome on the console is blinding in bright sunlight.
7. For 86K, it doesn't come standard with auto dimming headlights?
8. No compass.
I still love the car and thankfully nothing has gone wrong or broken since new, but my wife's 2014 Cadillac XTS has much better technology.
 

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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 08:37 PM
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Ok. Buy a cady. I chose Jag over cady. I like the looks
 
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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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How about the blue reflections in the side mirrors at night?
Or the lack of fold down rear seats and the missing overhead sun-glasses storage compartment.
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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 09:23 PM
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If your XJL is a 2015 and you've had no problems, you are blessed indeed. My XJL Supercharged was arguably the most beautiful automobile I've ever owned, BUT it was extremely problematic, to the point that I ultimately traded it on a new Cadillac XTS a couple years ago. My XTS doesn't have the panache of the XJL, but there is a certain satisfaction in owning a car that is more technically advanced and has been completely trouble-free thus far. No regrets whatsoever!

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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 09:27 PM
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That is the reason I also own the Jag (the looks).
 

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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa4576
I have a 2015 Portfolio XJL. For an $86K car, some things make no sense.
1. The dash is a computer screen, but offers no real customization for the display.
2. Fog lights are in the tail lights. WTF?
3. It has TPMS modules on each wheel, but it doesn't display tire pressures. WTF again.

5. Dash display letters and numbers require 20/20 vision to read them. My 68 year old eyes struggle.


8. No compass.
I still love the car and thankfully nothing has gone wrong or broken since new, but my wife's 2014 Cadillac XTS has much better technology.
1) I believe that there IS indeed, "customization" for the dash cluster display. Read your owners manual;
2) There IS a readout for tire pressures. It's shown in the RH "pod" of the dash display. You have to scroll through the options;
3) I'm the same age as you, and also have issues with small letters/numbers......on ALL of the cars in our "family fleet".
4) Our XJ is currently covered up in the garage, for the winter, so I'm not going out to the garage to look. But to the best of my recollection, somewhere in the pages upon pages of info on the dash display, there is a compass.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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I drive with the Nav display in 2D, North UP. In that configuration, the car arrow is your compass pointer. It also means that I only need to look in one place for all the info I require.

Interestingly, (well I think it is) on my wife's '17 F-Pace, you can have the instrument cluster map North UP and the central Nav screen 3D direction oriented...or any combination you fancy!

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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa4576
I have a 2015 Portfolio XJL. For an $86K car, some things make no sense.
1. The dash is a computer screen, but offers no real customization for the display.
2. Fog lights are in the tail lights. WTF?
3. It has TPMS modules on each wheel, but it doesn't display tire pressures. WTF again.
4. I have to use a multi-meter to determine battery voltage. Really?
5. Dash display letters and numbers require 20/20 vision to read them. My 68 year old eyes struggle.
6. The chrome on the console is blinding in bright sunlight.
7. For 86K, it doesn't come standard with auto dimming headlights?
8. No compass.
I still love the car and thankfully nothing has gone wrong or broken since new, but my wife's 2014 Cadillac XTS has much better technology.
I thought you needed 20/20 vision to see other things. Like pedestrians and cyclists. If you're struggling to read the instruments, you shouldn't be driving. Did you get an eye test recently?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa4576
I have a 2015 Portfolio XJL
1. The dash is a computer screen, but offers no real customization for the display.
2. Fog lights are in the tail lights. WTF?
3. It has TPMS modules on each wheel, but it doesn't display tire pressures. WTF again.
8. No compass.
1. A 2015 should have better customisation than the earlier cars, but you are still very limited. It's basically "do you want to see a clock or the current radio station", and map or digital dials.
2. Where else would the rear fog lights be?
3. Tire pressures are shown, but the vehicle needs to be in P (or maybe N might work too).
8. A compass? Is that a US thing? I don't think I've ever been in a car with a fitted compass in the UK.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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clubairth1,

I hadn't noticed the blue reflections in the mirror....until you mentioned it!!!! Thanks

Oh, my brother has a Cady, I hate driving it.

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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 06:48 AM
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Yes it's a small thing but for the cost of the car I expect them to think of EVERYTHING!
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xdave
3. Tire pressures are shown, but the vehicle needs to be in P (or maybe N might work too)..
Really?? I'll have to check that out.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 04:41 PM
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On my 2010 XJ I need to be in P to view the live tire pressures (maybe N as well, I don't use it that often), but I can view the recommended pressures via the vehicle settings menu at any time. It always seemed like a bizarre restriction to me - if anything you would want it to behave the other way round. The warning comes up telling you it has detected a low pressure, but it doesn't tell you if it is 1psi or 20psi under.
On my 2016 XJ you can view both in D (at least with the brakes on, I haven't checked while moving) but it also shows the pressure on the display when warning about low pressure as long as it is for just the one axle. If both than one it just shows the wheels and not the pressures.
On my 2015 F-Type the TPMS display is half way between both of those - you can see the live pressure for one axle if the warning comes up but the menu to see live pressures is disabled until the car is in P.

I vaguely recall seeing a value in the CCF when playing around with my 2016 that indicated it was for changing the TPMS display settings too, so the behaviour may even be market-dependant.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by xdave
On my 2010 XJ I need to be in P to view the live tire pressures (maybe N as well, I don't use it that often), but I can view the recommended pressures via the vehicle settings menu at any time. ...
Is this due to an update/ upgrade? On my 2010 XJ I can't seem to get any tyre pressure info at all.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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On our 2016 XJ-L, tire pressures can be read "live", while the vehicle is in motion. With the vehicle stopped (I don't recall if it has to be just not in motion, or in neutral or park), you can read both the actual tire pressure, as well as the "recommended" pressure.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa4576
I have a 2015 Portfolio XJL. For an $86K car, some things make no sense.
1. The dash is a computer screen, but offers no real customization for the display.
2. Fog lights are in the tail lights. WTF?
3. It has TPMS modules on each wheel, but it doesn't display tire pressures. WTF again.
4. I have to use a multi-meter to determine battery voltage. Really?
5. Dash display letters and numbers require 20/20 vision to read them. My 68 year old eyes struggle.
6. The chrome on the console is blinding in bright sunlight.
7. For 86K, it doesn't come standard with auto dimming headlights?
8. No compass.
I still love the car and thankfully nothing has gone wrong or broken since new, but my wife's 2014 Cadillac XTS has much better technology.
The Fog Lights at the back is because in Europe very foggy days make it impossible for cars behind you to see you. Those lights are more intense than the standard break lights and are required to be turned ON during intense fog. It's for cars behind you - so you won't get rear ended by a giant Volvo semi truck...
In US this might not make too much sense, perhaps they should have a US only tail light configuration.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Maybe_XJ
The Fog Lights at the back is because in Europe very foggy days make it impossible for cars behind you to see you. Those lights are more intense than the standard break lights and are required to be turned ON during intense fog. It's for cars behind you - so you won't get rear ended by a giant Volvo semi truck...
In US this might not make too much sense, perhaps they should have a US only tail light configuration.
Don't you get fog in the USA ?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 02:19 PM
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Don't you get fog in the USA ?
Of course, but fog lights in the U.S. are an extra set of headlamps aimed low to provide additional frontal illumination.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa4576
Of course, but fog lights in the U.S. are an extra set of headlamps aimed low to provide additional frontal illumination.
Nope. In either Europe or the US, fog lights is a general term that can cover either front, or rear, high intensity lights.

The issue is that in Europe most people seem to have a clue how to use them - in dense fog, while in the US a lot of fools seem to think that the front ones are there to help them see better at night, at any time, fog or not.

Front fog lights are intended only to be used in thick fog as the beam pattern is blinding to other drivers in any other conditions.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by christ
Is this due to an update/ upgrade? On my 2010 XJ I can't seem to get any tyre pressure info at all.
That is entirely possible - I have played around a lot with the CCF on that car, and I did flash 2013 firmware onto the instrument cluster module when I was first fitting the new touch screen to it and was trying to get the map display to work.
There are various CCF options around the TPMS as different markets get different functionality (NAS have normal/heavy load settings and different warning characteristics for example). I may have changed those around as well - I don't remember at this point!
For me it is under the bottom menu item, which is disabled when driving. It's where you go to check the oil level. If you don't have that option then I guess it is either down to the later firmware or a market difference.
 
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