XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 11:31 AM
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Hello everyone, I am very happy to have finished the restoration of my old 1995 X300, we did an impeccable job both on the interior and on the bodywork... The only thing that doesn't work after 10 years is the air conditioning compressor...
I refilled it with 650gr. with R134a but the belt turned idle trying in vain to turn the compressor...! What do you suggest, can I try to dismantle and overhaul the compressor which is evidently blocked after 10 years of inactivity, or should I look for a new compressor...?
What model would be compatible with the original MNA 7300AB...? Could it be Denso mod.471-1350...?
Are there other reliable compatible brands?
Based on your experience, should I also replace the dryer...?
Thank you very much for the usual, precious and affectionate support...?
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 03:36 PM
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Yes on replacing the dryer , and reverse blowing with air out the thermoexpansion valve while freon lines open ( old dryer beads get loose and clog effecting the cooling performance )

The compressor clutch that can be replaced on car without removing the compressor can be bad and can be tested with a meter for resistance

The clutch will not engage if freon to low ( protection )

As you rebuild the system there is an easy front climate control panel bite test with codes ( Youtube video made by someone )

" The belt turned idle trying in vain to turn the compressor "

With the engine off and I assume Key off the compressor clutch should not be energized or engaged to the compressor

There is a good parts source in the US otherwise the clutch is a common part ( not Jaguar special ) easily available

See video part 1 and separate part 2


Automotive FAQS about Air Conditioning Repair by Century Auto AirConditioning of Tucson Arizona, AC Parts Services and Hoses, www.centuryautoair.com

The parts section does not seem to be working today

 

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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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Thank you Parker, you are an inexhaustible source of information and inspiration for all of us...
 
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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I learned from everyone that contributes their knowledge and experience on this website
 

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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 03:55 PM
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You might be able to read the clutch without it running by the bite test

Video and manual and codes coming

14-10 Climate Control System DTC.pdf (jagrepair.com)


 

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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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The clutch center shaft bolt ( 10 mm ) has to come off with an impact gun ( maybe a cheap electric one is strong enough ) there is no other way to hold the shaft unless the shaft / compressor is mechanically jammed / broke which hopefully is not the case

There are some tricks to the belt lower idler pully / squealing bearing tension loosening to get into later but first do not strip the 4 sided head loosening long bolt that points straight down , the long tension adjustment bolt gets very rusted up being exposed to the elements . The pulley is creap and recommended to be replaced while there , common Gates manufacturer part # X easily available

If 10 mm bolt not coming off you can remove the compressor and take to a shop and they can remove with a stronger impact gun ( !0 mm impact rated socket supplied if they don't have one as you ask first ) and you can do yourself the rest of the overhaul work yourself with the final install ( enough final bolt torque ) of the 10 mm center bolt back at the shop

There was a TSB or something on a change in freon PEG oil on assembly

In starting the car from a " dead " car the clutch should not be energized / engaged as this compressor would be a drag on starter rotation

There is a low 2 Bar switch that protects and de - energizes the clutch and you may be able to maybe disconnect the switch to engage the compressor

researching , ..................................

This is the 4 wire freon pressure switch which the upper 2 wires drops out your clutch ( pressure too low and too high overpressure / freon charge / fill too much does this )

Fuse # 8 / 10 amp and # 10 / 5 amp both right engine bay fuse box

Large # 3 right relay , left # 3 large relay should be the cabin heater auxiliary water pump

The large relay should click in your fingers to close ( when you turn climate control panel to A / C on ) and engage the clutch ( you have relay swapping options as this relay # LNA6706AA is same for headlights and fog lights )

See item # 1

Genuine Relays For Jaguar Xj 1995 - 1997 (from 720125 To 812255) (x300) Classic | Jaguar Land Rover Classic Parts

You don't need to concern yourself with the mod on the 2 wire freon pressure switch which is a TSB as this does not affect clutch just radiator fans



 

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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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The clutch coil item # 33 ( NPA - 101 ) if needed should be a common available item as Denso is a common compressor on many cars

Parts page on Centuryair still not opening up but cheap parts

 

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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 04:40 PM
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Be *very* careful and patient with the drier lines. The threads of the high pressure lines like to seize onto the drier. Just a word of caution is all. I believe you’ll need two 19mm wrenches. Good luck!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 05:13 PM
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" The threads of the high pressure lines like to seize onto the drier "

Would heat and penetrating oil help ? the oil may not be good for the replacement o- rings

Reassemble with mineral oil to make the threading easier to not cross thread ?
 

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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 10:52 PM
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I think the heat from a small propane torch and penetrating oil will suffice. I only say this as a precaution because I dislike being caught off guard. Let’s hope that 10 years of not going down a road with water spray getting on the threads will be in this man’s favor and won’t be an issue at all. As for most X300’s, that’s not always the case. Sometimes it gets so bad that I have to hold the nut of the pipe still while I turn the drier. If the threads are bad enough, I’ll use antiseize as oil isn’t good enough.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 10:22 AM
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Never mind.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 09:58 AM
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Hello everyone ...
I finally managed to check the air conditioning error codes on my X300 Sport 4.0: error code 23 - 24 - 41 - 44.
Can anyone tell me what they correspond to?
Previously Parker had given me very precise instructions for intervening on the compressor overhaul, but before dismantling it I would like to understand better what these codes mean if possible...
Thank you very much if you want to share your experience!
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 10:34 AM
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There is a TSB on codes chart .............coming

14-10

23 / is low pressure 2 wire freon switch negated by a TSB with a jumper wire on switch connector

24/ is the Red / Blue dot on the center vent thumbwheel control ( a simple variable resistor not on the later X308s ) , be carefull on removing ( whole vent pulls straight out from simple clips ) as louvers are brittle

41/ Left recirculation motor flap that also can be ran with a 9 volt battery to desired position at the climate control module connector

44/ defrost vent motor that can be ran to desired position with a 9 volt battery either way , this also proves the motor is OK and just the position sensor for that motor

The following pic for connector map will be for looking at module view as removed connectors will be reverse mirror image

Nothing affecting compressor engagement

For max A / C performance clean with air and brush only the cabin temp sensor as built-up lent is not detected by bite test you performed , again does not affect compressor performance but does disengage clutch as it modulates to the set cabin temp

 

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 11:15 AM
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So "Nothing that affects the compressor engagement"...
so my doubt is cleared: the compressor must be dismantled and overhauled anyway...😓
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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On the compressor front center 10MM bolt must be removed with an impact gun at a local A / C shop that would have a 10 mm impact socket

On car as a frozen compressor and clutch pully belt holding ....................may risk piston rod damage in the compressor so a further think through

May not have to remove and open compressor , what was your determining test as could be clutch or fuses or the clutch relay

If freon too low or too high the clutch is disengaged by design from the 4 wire freon pressure switch
 

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 05:24 PM
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Thank you as always Parker for the attention you dedicate to all Jaguar enthusiasts...
I think that in any case, since the machine has been stationary for almost 10 years and perhaps to avoid the risk of breakage or deformation, I think it is better to disassemble the compressor and have it overhauled... Maybe I can do it too.... 😅😅
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 06:46 PM
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If you can get on the 10 mm bolt and turn with normal force ( on - car mounting ) would maybe prove the compressor is not frozen ( no lines removal as it is a gas very easily compressed ) and before bending compressor piston rods , the bolt should already be on tight and will tighten no bolt further so no false bolt only turning

Depending on how the clutch is engaged but should not be as not energized
 

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 07:35 PM
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There is probably a good Denso 10PA compressor pic in here

Compressor Denso PDF | PDF | Engenharia Mecānica | Energia e recurso
 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 07:44 PM
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Denso 10PA series reconditioning manual PDF but does not open ..................so far

Note no other clutch attach hardware except center

 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 07:51 PM
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The lower in this pic is the clutch attach with part 34 being the nose of the compressor




 
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