XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

Looking for AFM flow rates

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 2, 2014 | 11:15 AM
  #1  
Jagboi64's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,251
Likes: 3,511
From: Calgary, Canada
Default Looking for AFM flow rates

I am using a 1996 XJ6 air flow meter on my 1966 S Type with Megasquirt injection. I pulled the flowrate vs voltage data from the service manual and entered that into the computer and it is a long way off. I had to reduce the fueling by 35% at idle to get a reasonable air-fuel mixture for example.

This has me thinking that I have entered the calibration curve for the XJR's flowmeter, rather than the XJ6 ( which is what I am using). The curve I have shows a flowrate of 0.284 kg/s at 4.7 V
Could someone send me the flowrate vs voltage numbers for the 1995-1997 XJ6 please?
 

Last edited by Jagboi64; Jul 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2014 | 11:45 PM
  #2  
Don B's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 20,503
Likes: 15,277
From: Crossroads of America
Default

Originally Posted by Jagboi64
I am using a 1996 XJ6 air flow meter on my 1966 S Type with Megasquirt injection. I pulled the flowrate vs voltage data from the service manual and entered that into the computer and it is a long way off. I had to reduce the fueling by 35% at idle to get a reasonable air-fuel mixture for example.

This has me thinking that I have entered the calibration curve for the XJR's flowmeter, rather than the XJ6 ( which is what I am using). The curve I have shows a flowrate of 0.284 kg/s at 4.7 V
Could someone send me the flowrate vs voltage numbers for the 1995-1997 XJ6 please?
Hi Jagboi64,

The only reference I can find in my library is this page from the AJ16 Engine Management System Dealer Training Manual. I don't know if it will be of any help at all. I'm also attaching a pdf which may be a little higher resolution.

Cheers,

Don

 
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
AJ16_MAFS_Traces.pdf (2.31 MB, 165 views)
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2014 | 04:14 AM
  #3  
sparkenzap's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,502
Likes: 1,068
From: atlanta ga
Default

From the service manual- Looks like the same curve you have! I guess he Megasquirt must allow you to put in the non linear curve and it handles linearizing it. Since the curve is highly non linear, I suppose you should not just apply a calibration constant, huh
 
Attached Thumbnails Looking for AFM flow rates-pewyekd8pdf-001.jpg   Looking for AFM flow rates-aj16-maf-001.jpg  
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
pewyekd8pdf.pdf (120.9 KB, 190 views)
File Type: xls
aj16 MAF.xls (16.0 KB, 342 views)

Last edited by sparkenzap; Jul 4, 2014 at 04:39 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2014 | 10:41 AM
  #4  
Jagboi64's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,251
Likes: 3,511
From: Calgary, Canada
Default

Yes, that's the same curve I have. The question is does that apply to the XJ6 or XJR, as XJREngineer has stated that they are not the same curve. The AFM's are different part numbers too.

Megasquirt does not linerize the cure, it creates a best fit curve based on those values. A fair bit of math is involved. I attached the document if anyone is interested.

However, it appears that Jaguar wires the ECU differently than other typical AFM's (what a surprise! ), so I have to add some components to my megasquirt board so the signal output from the MAF isn't just noise. After looking at the diagram in the service manual an Electrical Engineer friend of mine noticed the difference and the pull up resistor in Jaguar's circuit.
 
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
MafAnalyzer.pdf (436.2 KB, 1278 views)
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 01:31 PM
  #5  
sparkenzap's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,502
Likes: 1,068
From: atlanta ga
Default

Yeah, I was going to point out that down at idle air flow, you are "in the noise" of the electrical signal's voltage. Even a small voltage loss on the return could make a 35% error, much less not having the input circuit right.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vwbusbits
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
15
Oct 13, 2015 03:43 AM
hoodun
XJS ( X27 )
26
Oct 6, 2015 08:34 PM
PinnacleWax
Detailing / Car care
0
Sep 25, 2015 12:46 PM
Bones
XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III
17
Sep 8, 2015 08:34 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 PM.