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Mag-alloy Valve Cover Corrosion Problem.

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Old May 11, 2013 | 02:26 AM
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Default Mag-alloy Valve Cover Corrosion Problem.

I think I've located the XJR I want, just have to make the final decision now.

Unusually, the valve cover is not too badly corroded but if I get that car I'd like to get it back to as-new, or modify it so the corrosion doesn't occur in the future.

I could get a new cover from Jaguar, would lacquering or having it properly prepared and painted stop the corrosion?

I could clean up the corrosion and have it plated, either chrome or nickel. Would the plating stop corrosion or would it still happen under the plating?

I believe electro-magnetic fields from the coils cause the corrosion, is there ant way to stop this?

Or does anyone have any other ideas that have worked successfully?

A few years ago I had an H22A-engined Honda Accord and obtained a carbon fibre valve cover for that, are replacement covers for the Jaguar available anywhere?
 
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Old May 11, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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It's ok, think I've sorted it. Answer seems to be electroless Ni-P plating as a base, followed nickel/chrome electroplating.
 
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Old May 12, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Would powder coating not do the trick?
 
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Old May 12, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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I had a similar problem with my old X300, particularly in some of the plug wells. I just ground out the oxidation back to bare metal, rubbed the rest of the cover down with wet & dry paper, etch primed and painted with heat resistant silver paint. The job was quite labour intensive but cost little in materials.....
It seemed to stand up well for over a year till I sold the car but cannot vouch for the extended longevity of the method !
 
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Old May 12, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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Corvettes have the same problem. There were a couple of DIY procedures on one of the vette forums noted here last year. maybe a search here would find it.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:08 AM
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Would powder coating not do the trick?
Not sure, but I haven't seen a Jag with it done and I've looked a lot!
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kyle04
I had a similar problem with my old X300, particularly in some of the plug wells. I just ground out the oxidation back to bare metal, rubbed the rest of the cover down with wet & dry paper, etch primed and painted with heat resistant silver paint. The job was quite labour intensive but cost little in materials.....
It seemed to stand up well for over a year till I sold the car but cannot vouch for the extended longevity of the method !
I thought about painting and powder coating but have never seen it done successfully. It seems everyone just leaves the cover as it is.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ237
Corvettes have the same problem. There were a couple of DIY procedures on one of the vette forums noted here last year. maybe a search here would find it.
First thing I did was search but nothing came up.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ237
Corvettes have the same problem. There were a couple of DIY procedures on one of the vette forums noted here last year. maybe a search here would find it.
Aren't Corvette covers aluminium?
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 03:00 AM
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who on the forum has the knowledge and contacts to have a batch of several hundred manufactured in some tough plastic material?
I would buy one as a spare, I suspect many others would too...
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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No plastic on my jag please!

If I want plastic Ill by a another brand car its got to much as it is (LOL)
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AL NZ
who on the forum has the knowledge and contacts to have a batch of several hundred manufactured in some tough plastic material?
I would buy one as a spare, I suspect many others would too...
I'd have one as long as it wasn't made from plastic. Aluminium, steel, carbon fibre would be fine.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 05:11 AM
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Default Why doesn't Jag replace them?

I'm curious as to why Jaguar hasn't offered to have them replaced under a recall as it is a known problem area. They didn't continue using magnesium alloy for the X308 I don't think.

Does anyone know how much replacements are from dealers?
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill999
Aluminium, steel, carbon fibre would be fine.
Wouldn't carbon fibre be plastic (epoxy), too?
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mgb4tim
Wouldn't carbon fibre be plastic (epoxy), too?
Don't think so. Give Pagani a call, ask him if his cars are plastic.
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Carbon fiber has to be bonded with something. It is, after all, a fiber formed by heating a polymer in a furnace until nothing but carbon remains. Typically bonded with epoxies, but can be formulated to withstand very high temp.
But I think a valve cover might cost more than a lot of our cars are worth, unless it was made as a high production item.
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Don't think so. Give Pagani a call, ask him if his cars are plastic.
you obviously missed my sarcasm. But, it's CF or Kevlar(which starts as a plastic) bonded with epoxy (a polymer = plastic), covered in a clear coat (urethane = plastic), so yeah, it's a lot of plastic..LOL.
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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One of the members said he filled the defects with a metal filled epoxy, then used high temp primer and engine paint from the local auto store (dupli-color). It held up for a couple of years before needing a re- spray. I don't think there is anything that is truly permanent, and at least that's inexpensive.

That was posted in one of the threads last fall.
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by doc
No plastic on my jag please!

If I want plastic Ill by a another brand car its got to much as it is (LOL)
just "upgrade" to a post 1997 model ... you'll get more plastic than the recycle yard ... all of it more brittle than a soda cracker
 
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The cam cover NBC2564CA (up to VIN 116205 and NBC2564CB (from VIN 116206) are no longer avaliable from Jaguar. There is a new for sale on ebay (UK) for £99. Reasonable condition second hand ones are for sale at £50-£60 and are probably still cheaper than having them preofessional reconditioned.
 
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