XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

What is this switch and how to remove it

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Old Oct 5, 2022 | 12:07 PM
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rubber plug?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2022 | 12:14 PM
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Notice the elongated mounting holes to keep track of when reinstalling the switch back on the transmission
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:10 PM
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Ok 2 things,,, With key in run pos the bottom 2 tabs have 12v to them, when i used a jumper wire to all other tabs the car starts, 2nd how do I get the lever off, I tried 1/4 drive ratchet but I was afraid I was going to break it
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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Ok figured out how to get it off
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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Is that suppose to be bridged ??
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 10:59 PM
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No bridge

The contact strips on the bottom 2 are the same so it's a redundant feature in case one " lifts off " of contact , this increases the reliability

Your focus is pin 6 ( Green / Orange wire ) and 7 ( Red / Orange ) for the stater relay command ground path through the switch

So you have 6 soldier points for 6 pins on the top of the pic

The rotary pivot probably has 2 contact brushes to bring the total to 8 pins

Probably the best you can do with the pivot point brushes is an alcohol wash and not a solvent that may damage or warp the fine plastics in the pivot point , this is probably your fluid intrusion area and not the O - ring seal

 

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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 11:35 AM
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Hope you can make out what I'm trying to say here

 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 11:43 AM
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Looks like the 5 pin is not used , pin map backwards ?

Pin 1 should go to car frame ground < and this 1 pin should be in the corner of the connector as a orientation
 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 11:43 AM
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With lever on #1, #5, #6 have 12v in Park, Move shifter out of P #6 got to zero but in neutral #6 has 12v again so I believe rotary switch is working

 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 11:46 AM
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Your 6 volt readings are valid as this seems to be the feeling voltage on the breakout sheet


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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 12:01 PM
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No the map is correct, I'm not going by the connector I'm going by the solder points on the plate,,, So what would be next? BPM ? The TPM ?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Editing above and will take some time to place value in the vertical column

Multi tasking
 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 12:48 PM
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There is a BPM reset for your US model

But you did say by jumper Ing the switch you got starter rotation ?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 03:14 PM
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Yes car started

 
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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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[QUOTE=Parker 7;2574744]There is a BPM reset for your US model

Are you referring to the hard reset by holding battery cables together ?? If so I already tried that, if not wha is it please
 
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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 04:19 PM
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Yes , I found by clamping them together over night the better

someone used Tywrasp and I use a battery jumper cable ( overkill )

Must put something over the battery post to not make contact

I was just at a salvage yard so there are fresh pickings on a X300 that just came in like a BPM or a rotary switch
 
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Parker 7
So l;ets track it down in a different path being the key lock solenoid

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The Body Processor Module is continuing to provide a ground on the Red / White color wire

Ok , So if I'm reading this right, The Brake switch & Not In Park switch both send a signal to the BPM, Which then sends signal to Key lock relay & key lock solenoid ,Also Gearshift interlock relay & gearshift interlock solenoid, Either circuit will prevent crank and give me the lights?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 02:10 PM
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The BPM is looking for all agreements / enables on the left side and then provides a command ground for the 2 relays for the interlock solenoids

Thinking on your last sentence in how this ties into the starter solenoid relay but the agreements / enables are a different set of devices in the starter solenoid circuit

So this raises the question of what goes on inside the box which you may not ihave information about clouding up what information you do have

In the end the BPM must provide a command ground for the starter solenoid relay so a test light bulb that you can see from the cabin by yourself may be helpful , this test bulb at the starter solenoid relay will be confirming your rotary position switch path is good or not as 1 of 2 possibilities , either the BPM is not providing the command ground, or the rotary position switch is not enabling a ground path

Have you swapped this starter solenoid relay as it may be marginaly failed in a manor and not totally ?

I think you changed the starter but someone recently did find a starter assembly connection loose

The question is if the BPM is being powered by the fuse in the trunk ? This involves a connector to learn it,'s precaution about before tinkering with the connector
 

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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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I switch and replaced starter relay,I just checked Key lock relay and gearshift interlock relay both have 12v on circuits 1 & 3,Weird thing I just discovered is I cannot remove the key in park position but I can in every other position,,Fuse in trunk for BPM is good
 
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Old Oct 11, 2022 | 03:09 PM
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It seems something is making this car think its in gear it seems to me
 
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