2002 XJ Sport, Input on looks!
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I assume you're addressing Burmaz and myself?
Well in Europe in the 90s there were many, many, many cars fitted with 3 spokes both standard and after market. Factory fitted on: Vauxhall Corsa, Vauxhall Tigra, Range Rover MK2, Land Rover Discovery MK1 & 2, VW Polo, Suzuki Vitara, Ford Escort MK6 & 7 and many others, and they were sold to customisers everywhere.
As far as suspension goes, Sport suspension was a non cost option in the UK in some years, so there are many XJ8s with fluted interiors and sports suspension. Mine for instance is fitted with S/S and Celtic wheels, and corners like it is on rails. This is with the standard Jaguar recommended tyres too.
Now wheel sizes again is a personal thing. I think now wheels are too big, my Dad's MG ZT has 18in wheels, which look fine but are the biggest I'd go. My Coach has 22.5in wheels, which is smaller than some SUV wheels on todays market.
Well in Europe in the 90s there were many, many, many cars fitted with 3 spokes both standard and after market. Factory fitted on: Vauxhall Corsa, Vauxhall Tigra, Range Rover MK2, Land Rover Discovery MK1 & 2, VW Polo, Suzuki Vitara, Ford Escort MK6 & 7 and many others, and they were sold to customisers everywhere.
As far as suspension goes, Sport suspension was a non cost option in the UK in some years, so there are many XJ8s with fluted interiors and sports suspension. Mine for instance is fitted with S/S and Celtic wheels, and corners like it is on rails. This is with the standard Jaguar recommended tyres too.
Now wheel sizes again is a personal thing. I think now wheels are too big, my Dad's MG ZT has 18in wheels, which look fine but are the biggest I'd go. My Coach has 22.5in wheels, which is smaller than some SUV wheels on todays market.
That MG looks good!
Are all of the coach buses in the UK diesel powered? I have seen a few "GM Hybrid" city buses in the states. In Whistler Canada, their city buses are hydrogen fuel cell powered! You read that right, full blown fuel cell powered. Some of the first in the world. They are super quiet but apparently break down a lot. Each bus costs $2.1million!
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Yes, they are all Diesel powered and mine has a 600 Litre tank, but there are a couple in our fleet that have 1000 Litre tanks! They cost £1420 to fill up or $2245, which is quite steep! But our coaches do make trips into mainland Europe, so large tanks are required.
There are some ECO buses in the UK but they use super efficient diesel engines instead of fuel cell stuff.
I've added a photo of the MG from the front, these are pictures I took when it was in the Dealership. It is difficult to get a photo of it now because it is always filthy! LOL It by the way is powered by a BMW 4Cyl 2.0 Turbo Diesel engine, which in MG X-Power tune gives about 135 BHP. Or to put it another way, it can keep up with my Jag.
There are some ECO buses in the UK but they use super efficient diesel engines instead of fuel cell stuff.
I've added a photo of the MG from the front, these are pictures I took when it was in the Dealership. It is difficult to get a photo of it now because it is always filthy! LOL It by the way is powered by a BMW 4Cyl 2.0 Turbo Diesel engine, which in MG X-Power tune gives about 135 BHP. Or to put it another way, it can keep up with my Jag.
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Stu, at first I thought you were saying that the MG 2.0 had a 600l tank. lol!! I'd love that, none of that 50l nonsense 
And about those magical eco-buses... I think that the Icelanders have a fleet of experimental fuel-cell buses up there. Cool stuff. It isn't very eco, though, because the H required to fill the fuel cells comes from stripping hydrogen atoms from natural gas. Which is a "fossil fuel" and therefore not very eco.
Am I right in thinking that the diesel is a straight-six?
And about those magical eco-buses... I think that the Icelanders have a fleet of experimental fuel-cell buses up there. Cool stuff. It isn't very eco, though, because the H required to fill the fuel cells comes from stripping hydrogen atoms from natural gas. Which is a "fossil fuel" and therefore not very eco.
Am I right in thinking that the diesel is a straight-six?
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The MG has a 70L tank and gives 45MPG on the motorways, which is not to be sniffed at.
Does what have a 6 pot? the Coach or car? The MG is a 4 cylinder engine, the coach has a MAN 18-400 straight 6 turbo charged 10.6 litre 400HP engine and a 12 speed ZF-AS Tronic semi automatic transmission. I have just completed a 230 mile journey in the snow in my coach, and she never missed a beat.
In the UK operators need their buses to be reliable and work so there isn't much in the way of experimental ECO vehicles. We know what works, and they work well. Double deckers in cities, single deckers on rural routes and national express coaches on long distance.
Does what have a 6 pot? the Coach or car? The MG is a 4 cylinder engine, the coach has a MAN 18-400 straight 6 turbo charged 10.6 litre 400HP engine and a 12 speed ZF-AS Tronic semi automatic transmission. I have just completed a 230 mile journey in the snow in my coach, and she never missed a beat.
In the UK operators need their buses to be reliable and work so there isn't much in the way of experimental ECO vehicles. We know what works, and they work well. Double deckers in cities, single deckers on rural routes and national express coaches on long distance.
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The MG has a 70L tank and gives 45MPG on the motorways, which is not to be sniffed at.
Does what have a 6 pot? the Coach or car? The MG is a 4 cylinder engine, the coach has a MAN 18-400 straight 6 turbo charged 10.6 litre 400HP engine and a 12 speed ZF-AS Tronic semi automatic transmission. I have just completed a 230 mile journey in the snow in my coach, and she never missed a beat.
In the UK operators need their buses to be reliable and work so there isn't much in the way of experimental ECO vehicles. We know what works, and they work well. Double deckers in cities, single deckers on rural routes and national express coaches on long distance.
Does what have a 6 pot? the Coach or car? The MG is a 4 cylinder engine, the coach has a MAN 18-400 straight 6 turbo charged 10.6 litre 400HP engine and a 12 speed ZF-AS Tronic semi automatic transmission. I have just completed a 230 mile journey in the snow in my coach, and she never missed a beat.
In the UK operators need their buses to be reliable and work so there isn't much in the way of experimental ECO vehicles. We know what works, and they work well. Double deckers in cities, single deckers on rural routes and national express coaches on long distance.
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What type of MPG does your coach get? I've always been curious.
What speeds are they typically driven on the open highway?
I've heard that of the heavy machines, (big rigs, city buses, school buses, coach buses) that the coach buses have the most power. True? Do you prefer one over the other? What type of 0-60 times would you estimate? I'm guessing they would be around 20seconds.
As for 'eco' buses, I have seen plug in hybrid city buses in Houston too. North America is putting in some effort.
Sorry so many questions and getting way off topic.
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They have a lot of power, but they weigh 12 tons unladen, add 50 passengers and luggage to that and you are pushing 20 tons almost. Even more if you are towing a trailer.
I prefer the coaches over buses, then from there I'd have to say I like the Beulas coaches, like mine, over the others. They are like the Jags of the coach world so to speak.
Trucks can do 56mph, Buses to 50mph and Coaches can do 65mph, but these speeds are all electronically limited. The 0-60 would be closer to 40 seconds to be honest, 20 would be far too uncomfortable for passengers and reckless.
I would say, in Europe at least, trucks have the most power. There are Scania V8 trucks here which have 800hp, and can pull some huge loads at 56mph up a hill without breaking a sweat!
I prefer the coaches over buses, then from there I'd have to say I like the Beulas coaches, like mine, over the others. They are like the Jags of the coach world so to speak.
Trucks can do 56mph, Buses to 50mph and Coaches can do 65mph, but these speeds are all electronically limited. The 0-60 would be closer to 40 seconds to be honest, 20 would be far too uncomfortable for passengers and reckless.
I would say, in Europe at least, trucks have the most power. There are Scania V8 trucks here which have 800hp, and can pull some huge loads at 56mph up a hill without breaking a sweat!
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