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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Well doing what I do I was surfing around late last night checking things out and came across something new by steigmeyer and just want to see what some think this may help. Sure they may be lighter but is it going to help at all?? I have to think and hope he has done some dyno but Ill be damed if i can find anything anywhere and he didnt say much in his response to my email other than price which is 500.00 LOL. Discussion and thoughts under new products??? Stiegemeier Porting Services, LLC - Supercharger Rebuild and Repair
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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It's hard to see products that associate "venom" and "lubricant" and not put those together....

If there are no dyno results for products, I think it is safe to assume why.

Dynos are the proof.
Dyno results are easy to obtain.
Therefore if there is no proof, and it would have been easy to obtain...

QUACK
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Eatons make lot of heat. Thinner and lighter metals do not hold up to heat as well. When metal gets hot it changes shape. Rotors changing shape while spinning at 20k+ RPM is bad mmmkay.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Not arguing tht nlaser but would be cool so see a unbiased dyno lol and I think it would be really cool to see someone make a 4 lobe 180 degree twist interchangeable M112 rotor pack LOL
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 05:01 AM
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Now that would help much more, but would also need serious changes to the casing to get the benefit.

Am not so optimistic about stiegs products, he has already miserably failed his promises for a 75 hp increase on STRs with his snakebite garbage.

And when you look as to what he must be known for (porting a SC), it isn't even worth the money. Have a look here for some of his own used dyno results:
http://www.stiegemeier.com/technical.html

Porting the SC + intake plenum and new plugs yielded only 25 rwhp (4%). Looking at the dyno the plugs may even have played the biggest role. So on our cars, if you would have 350rwhp, 4% would be just 14 rwhp...

Making the rotors lighter would not gain any hp, you only lower the inertia, and as laser says, I would also be wary going this road…
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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As Avos says it will lower the rotor inertia which can only do something useful if the supercharger belt slips when the engine revs up.
Avos is the SC king but I'd guess if the belt did slip it wouldn't last long.
I believe application of Snake Oil to the belt will prevent slip more effectively than lightening the rotors.
I do have some virgin cold pressed snake oil for sale if anyone needs some.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by avos
Now that would help much more, but would also need serious changes to the casing to get the benefit.

Am not so optimistic about stiegs products, he has already miserably failed his promises for a 75 hp increase on STRs with his snakebite garbage.

And when you look as to what he must be known for (porting a SC), it isn't even worth the money. Have a look here for some of his own used dyno results:
http://www.stiegemeier.com/technical.html

Porting the SC + intake plenum and new plugs yielded only 25 rwhp (4%). Looking at the dyno the plugs may even have played the biggest role. So on our cars, if you would have 350rwhp, 4% would be just 14 rwhp...

Making the rotors lighter would not gain any hp, you only lower the inertia, and as laser says, I would also be wary going this road…
As I have said time and time again Bob does alot of talking but not alot of doing hes a nice enough guy but I agree the jag blower as cast ports are big and already sized optimumly. I do think tht overdriving it can produce good results if the heat can be controlled.

I just wanted to see the thoughts behind the idea
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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"I do have some virgin cold pressed snake oil for sale if anyone needs some."

Yes, but one would no longer be a virgin after purchasing some of that
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Although I can't think of any reason why one would wish to preserve one's virginity I am prepared, for a modest extra consideration, to supply virginity retaining virgin cold pressed snake oil for virgin's use only.
This can not only be applied to the devilish Serpentine Belt (look what happened to Adam + Eve) but also rubbed into the Throttle's Body to ensure a 100% WOT-HO.
Needless to say it is an invaluable aid in the Catching of Unicorns.
I'd better stop now or I'll be smacked by a Demi-God (again) Ouch!
 
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