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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 04:30 PM
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where can i buy PPG?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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If you go to the PPG home page and put in your zip they will direct you to Northside Auto Parts in Hartsville. (843) 332-013. If not I'm certain in Charlotte. You can also buy online from tcpglobal.com, but I think you need to talk to a supplier becuse there are a lot of choices to make.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 02:53 PM
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Is ppg paint any good?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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One of the best.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 03:07 PM
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Seems to me you're making this a bit more difficult than need be. If a body shop is handling the job why not let them match/mix & pick the paint ? They should have all the means to make a seamless repair. The only reason I bought my own paint was because I was going to do the task myself(never again lol).

Either way good luck !
 

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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 05:10 PM
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You guys do realize our cars are base coat under clear coat, right? One stage canned paint may fool some of the people some of the time when used in a very small area. If you do an entire bumper with a spray can...or any one stage paint for that matter...it will not look the same. One stage paint of even identical color will not show the depth and gloss of base coat/clear coat.

The original paint used on Jags is Glasurit. Outstanding paint. PPG and DuPont make decent paints. Omni makes a cheaper, passable paint. Rattle can paint is a joke.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cjd
One stage paint of even identical color will not show the depth and gloss of base coat/clear coat.
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I wouldn't say that. BC/CC can appear glossier (some would say "plasticky"... but still glossy), but nothing can match the depth of a good single stage urethane, especially in the darker colors.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 08:20 PM
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No, I am buying Two-Stage base paint for $97 from PPG. What is the difference between twostage and onestage?
And @KC the bodyshops paint was $50 a quart. That is a big no-no.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by omgimali
No, I am buying Two-Stage base paint for $97 from PPG. What is the difference between twostage and onestage?
And @KC the bodyshops paint was $50 a quart. That is a big no-no.
There's no "2-stage base paint" that's referring to base color finished with clear coat.

50$ is low(did that include the needed mixing agents hardener etc.?) but you're getting it professionally matched & that's key in partial/repair jobs. I'm sure they have entry level paints on up to premium range.

My guy offered me 3 ranges entry/basic,intermediate & premium. Just saying you're running the risk of bad matching doing it this way. Any body shop worth their salt should be able to mix paint to match with today's technology. If the paint you bring in doesn't match or doesn't come out right. I doubt they're liable because you supplied the paint. I like the reassurance of a guarantee when I'm spending decent $ on my services is all.
 

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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 06:19 AM
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Urethane basecoat is a two part mix which is often confused with two stage.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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"Two-part" paint refers to paints that require a chemical "activator" or "hardener" to be mixed into the paint just prior to painting. All modern automotive paints (both two-stage and single-stage) are two-part paints.

"Two-stage" refers to basecoat/clearcoat paints. The first basecoat layer has a duller look and requires a clearcoat layer over it to appear shiny. These "two-stage" paints are preferred by OEM manufacturers because the clearcoat layer is very tough and survives +10 years in the elements without waxing before it starts to fail.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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so which one would be better?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 03:46 PM
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Two-part paints would always be better (much tougher and longer lasting) than a one-part (non-hardened) paint.

As for two-stage vs single stage, that's similar to asking "which motor oil is better". Single-stage paints can be cheaper (but not always). BC/CC paints can last longer (but only on cars that rarely get waxed). Single-stage paints are easier to correct problems on later on (wet-sanding or buffing out scratches, orange peel, other paint defects) as the paint is identical throughout the entire depth of the paint. With clearcoat paints, you have to be much more careful with this sort of correction, as buffing completely through the clearcoat is very noticeable (the lower basecoat or colorcoat is not shiny). Most of the other visual differences would honestly only be noticeable to "car guys" or professional painters. A well taken care of CC/BC paint job has a slightly "harder" edge to its shine, whereas a single stage paint job would have a "warmer" or "deeper" type of shine.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 05:49 PM
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Thanks you so much @Samilcar. Two-stage paint I should go for. Now that I got that out the way. Should I also buy the clear from PPG or the body shops clear for $50 a quart? any other clear out there?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 07:16 PM
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I'm a little out of my league there. Lots of clearcoat available online, I do most of my paint shopping at this site: Automotive Paint & Auto Body Primer for Sale
 
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