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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 02:37 AM
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Is there a difference in engine components lay-out between a LHD and a RHD?
That is, as far as the routing / fixing of this dipstick is involved?

Note: I just finished a call with a manufacturing director of Ford in China.
He has a friend making piping, incl. dipsticks for OEM and after market in China and Taiwan, and will see if they can help us for a special, ''less than nothing in quantity'' badge.

So you guys better hurry ,
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 06:18 AM
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hello from the x100 forum. i placed an order for the meruosport dipstick on November 11th. will let you know when i receive it.

on another note, i upgraded to the redesigned A-drum before a failure at 89K USA miles. all of the clutch packs and everything else in the unit remained stock. the fluid in the transmission was changed after 60K miles and again when the A-drum was replaced which was of course a very thorough change due to emptying the converter. the transmission works very well. it could be a nice test case to see if it ever fails for other reasons outside of expected wear.

i strongly advise anyone to upgrade the A-drum prior to failure as it is very easy to do.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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Interested if the proper quality and accurate along well price is achieved.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 01:20 PM
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would also be interested if price /quality available
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 02:34 PM
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I wrote meruosport inquiring about their location and pricing the first of last week and haven't received a response yet. Perhaps they were off for the holiday?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BobRoy
I been thinking about this a little, after a few hours of sleep.

The tubes are too narrow to try to add fluid into. It would take a while to and the fluid unless you pushed it in with a pump setup.Then if you are able to get fluid into the transmission through the tube it will be awhile before you could check the level because of the fluid in the tube would false reading until there was no more residue on the sides of the tube.

Thinking of using the tube to check the fluid level, or the possiblity of adding a sensor there that would sense when the fluid reaches the port.

As for adding oil it might be possible to find a different way to get the fluid into the transmission. I would have to look at the transmission later, it's 2:30am here, but it might be possible to add fluid somewhere else.

Still running it through my head so your ideas are appreciated.
The top cooler entry line is very easy to access. I used it a couple of times for topping off and once for filling with a pump type used for gasoline.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Highhorse
I wrote meruosport inquiring about their location and pricing the first of last week and haven't received a response yet. Perhaps they were off for the holiday?
I think he's either out of business or no longer making them, I know of a few people who have emailed him and even bought from him and not had any response. Daim approached him a while ago about a group buy and never heard back. So he's either very rude or arrogant, or no longer trading. Either way based on what I've heard he doesn't seem like the kind of person I'd like to trade with.

I've had a little look at what's going on, what I've noticed is that the gearbox has two level plugs high above the filler port. Now I'm not sure what they're for because as far as we know the level is checked by burning your hands and spilling expensive fluid all over the floor. I've added some photos to show what I'm talking about.


ZF5HP24 unit

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Is there anyone who could have a try at making a dummy part for us to work things out? You could use a bit of copper brake pipe to work out the bends, as I said earlier I'm away until Saturday and Eric hasn't got the facility to do it. We're getting close here chaps, lets push on!!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 10:13 AM
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hi all I put myself on the list in case and thanks for your efforts
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 09:03 PM
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I am an xk8 owner. I ordered an adapter but the seller never shipped, so I am seeking a different solution. So count me in

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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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[QUOTE=metalbasher;1992986]

On a side note: Bob, you've been into the ZF box before. How much does it differ mechanically from the old BW boxes (ie. are there any other special tools other than what you'd use to build a typical auto box)? I've rebuilt BWs and TH400s; they aren't difficult to do. I don't need to right now but I wouldn't have an issue with rebuilding it myself when the time comes if I have access to the right bits.[/QUOTE

I haven't done a complete rebuild on the transmission yet, just the A drum repair and the Transgo pressure valve. I have that spare transmission my desk that I would like to do someday. I figure by the time I'm 135 I should have all of my little projects done.

Your best be to get info on the ZF5HP24 is to download the manual from our site. I believe Jim Lombardi had the link in one of his threads.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 12:43 AM
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I’m not sure if this project is going anywhere now, it’s looking like we may have missed the window of opportunity we had with the suppliers Eric referenced to.

If I need to add more fluid to the system in the future I’ll be looking at trying to do it from the radiator end in the engine bay. I’m assuming you just undo the union when the system is cold and add with a pump or syringe.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu 1986
I’m not sure if this project is going anywhere now, it’s looking like we may have missed the window of opportunity we had with the suppliers Eric referenced to.

that is to bad!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 07:06 PM
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Same here. Just let it warm up until the idle goes down and I'm good to go.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2019 | 06:03 AM
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Good news, just received a notice from the seller, Meruosport, that the dipstick kit is on its way with an apology for the delay. They included tracking information. I was considering contacting my payment processor to dispute the charge a few days ago. funny how things work out.

If anyone is interested in studying the product before installation, let's discuss details.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2019 | 06:11 AM
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I can't believe these threads have not been joined... https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ersion-219228/
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Highhorse
I can't believe these threads have not been joined... https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ersion-219228/
I did wonder the same thing when I saw the other thread, but I guess things get lost. Forums by their very nature are prone to the same subjects being covered again and again, albeit in a slightly different way each time. But it’s good to know the seller does actually still produce the items, even if his customer service is far below par. This may well be a future purchase for me.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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Thank You for Posting the Photo of the Classic Dipstick

All sourcing problems have been solved and all Back Orders have been shipped

I just started making a lot go 24 Classic Dipsticks to have in inventory for next business day shipment.

For anyone interested i have the following in stock ready to ship

2 Classic Dipstick for Jaguar XJ8 XJ85HP24

4 Classic Dipstick for Jaguar XK8 XK85HP24

1 Classic Dipstick for BMW 740 E385HP24

If you have any questions please email me at tem@meurosport.com

Thank You to everyone who has purchased or expressed interest.

Tom

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Select Classic Dipstick tab
 
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu 1986
But it’s good to know the seller does actually still produce the items, even if his customer service is far below par. This may well be a future purchase for me.
I'm not certain but the original guy who designed and made them passed away from cancer, it was all on their last website explaining the sad news. As this is the only known replacement with level check I'd be inclined to buy one if running an XJ8/XK8.

Thanks to Tom for the re-manufacture and update to this thread.
 
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:08 AM
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Yes I'm 3,000 miles into my rebuilt ZF & I get a rough shift into drive on my cold initial start of the day, it shifts perfectly in every other scenario but the cold start harshness spooks me. I've returned it to the shop that did the rebuild, they assured me it's fine, I even went to another transmission repair specialist whom dyno-tested it etc. & also gave it a clean bill of health. If I let it warm up for a few minutes it doesn't surface, also does it less when the ambient temperature is warmer. I guess it maybe one of these older car "quirks" us Jag owners learn to put up with lol.
Now 6K miles in & the harsh shift into drive still surfaces. Only on the first drive of the day ,1st drive consists of : I go straight into reverse for about 20 yards, then to drive & it's rough about 40% of the time, more so when the ambient temp's down. Seems to be temp. related but I don't want any preventable tragedies looming lol. I brought this post up because it did it again today. I read somewhere on the forum that taking it out of sport mode on initial start would remedy it so I may try that.
 

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Old May 21, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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You may want to try contacting Gary Ferraro on YouTube who has a extensive list of videos on the ZF trans and its issues. He is really good at describing issues and the cause.
I went to his page and put in Jaguar ZF5HP hard shift and this came back ...https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWa...5hp+hard+shift
I didn't watch them yet, but at least wanted to get you a lead.
 
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