XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III 1968-1992

dropping the oil pan

Old Oct 28, 2020 | 11:48 AM
  #1  
Yash swamy's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 27
Likes: 8
From: Sydney, NSW Australia
Question dropping the oil pan

I have to change out the front main seal (taking the timing assembly out to change out s brother hanger bracket) and in the manual it states that I have to drop the pan and I am wondering if it is possibly to drop the pan without completely pulling the engine,

thanks in advance
Yash
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 01:14 PM
  #2  
Darrenmb's Avatar
Veteran Member
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 1,258
From: Orlando Florida
Default

You can support the engine from above and drop the crosmember
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 08:29 PM
  #3  
Grant Francis's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 28,799
Likes: 11,274
From: Adelaide Stralia
Default

Back in the day, a LONG way back.

We had a tool to machine off those lips on the sump and the timing cover.

This enabled the oil seal to be replaced like any other oil seal.

Prior to that tool, we would simply loosen the sump bolts down both side, all the way to the rear, and removing 4???, memory, on each side at the front. Prise the sump loose, and let it "hang" while the old seal was dug out and the new installed. MESSY, and resealing that sump was always "hit and miss", as RTV was not around back then.

The sump will not come out with the A) the cradle in the way, B) the engine is in the car. One or the other needs to move.

I have ":heard" of people raising the engine up high, and wiggling the sump out, fine, BUT, that wiggle will screw the new gasket when attempting refit.

I would ask around, someone, maybe many, will remember that cutter tool, and maybe still have it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2020 | 09:01 PM
  #4  
The Mekon's Avatar
Senior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 334
Likes: 265
From: Bowral NSW
Default

Yes the bottom studs + the locating dowels in the timing cover mean that the sump must be lowered to get the thing off. The only way I can see to do this with sump in place is to try to remove the studs from the alloy case with double lock nuts and gentle heat. No sure if there is enough room to do this behind the damper while the engine is in the bay.
I would not hesitate to remove the engine. I see from the photo in the other thread you have a crane - so go for it. You will curse yourself if the sump leaks because you were unable to clean the area properly for new gaskets while in place.
Front seals can weep a bit then come good. Mine is still the original seal from 47 years ago. No leaks at present.
PM me if you are needing a top timing plate.
John
 
Reply
Old Oct 29, 2020 | 06:55 AM
  #5  
iramphal's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 692
Likes: 276
From: Lincoln Ontario
Default Dropping the sump

From my previous S3 V12 E-Type days, I recall backing out the studs on the lower timing cover that secured the sump so I could remove the cover to replace a tensioner. Jaguar must have been happy to pass the design onwards from the 6 to the 12.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pirk
XJS ( X27 )
0
Jul 28, 2020 06:31 PM
Man on the hill
X-Type ( X400 )
5
Jun 13, 2018 07:54 PM
alextovaar
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
1
Mar 16, 2015 12:46 PM
STYPE1
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
7
Jun 26, 2014 10:12 AM
Executivekev
E type ( XK-E )
1
Aug 31, 2011 04:19 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 AM.