XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III 1968-1992

Head lining replacement

Old Oct 24, 2019 | 07:44 PM
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Hi all,
Can anyone recommend any good articles or videos showing replacement of a sagging head lining on my Series II Daimler?
I don't suppose there is anyway to glue up an existing sagged lining?
I have come across some excellent Utubes called Living with a Classic that provides concise and comprehensive information on performing many tasks on the V12 but I haven't seen one on head linings.
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Old Oct 24, 2019 | 09:15 PM
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I have an article in an old Jaguar Driver's Club magazine that covers it well.
It is almost impossible to do this job in place unless you are some sort of Wizard with glue and material.
Best done by removing the rear window (backlight in Jaguar parlance) and so removing the hard roof liner. I have done the job twice in 36 years and may need to do it again soon.
I will see if I can find this article.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 01:34 AM
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Article attached. It is from the Jaguar Drivers Club of Australia magazine May 1981. All credit to long term member Peter Stokes for this article. I found it very helpful.
Pages are in order 3,1,2 - sorry about that!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 05:49 AM
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in the Series 3, the headliner fiberglass pad will come out through the rear door, no need to remove the rear glass. Unless of course the Daimler is different. The fiberglass pad is flexible enough to bend slightly without cracking.

you first remove the front and rear seats, then all the trim, sunvisors, rear view mirror, etc., on the sides, front and reat.

the pad is held by brackets on each side,
remove those brackets and the pad falls on your head.

pull pad through one of the rear doors at the angle it likes.

Lay it flat and pull the old fabric, scrape pad with a brush to remove foam dust.

Spray headliner adhesive front to rear, side to side, and angularly.

lay fabric on the pad and roll to end using a lightweight paint roller. Do not press material hard, just let it find its shape.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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Did this work this past summer on my 1984 Series 3 VDP. There are plenty of articles on how to do it. I found that the board did in fact crack though it didn't break fully. I was able to reinforce the cracked spots with snow/ice shield I had laying around.

Any questions... Ask away.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:30 PM
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[QUOTE=Jose;2144632]in the Series 3, the headliner fiberglass pad will come out through the rear door, no need to remove the rear glass. Unless of course the Daimler is different. The fiberglass pad is flexible enough to bend slightly without cracking.

Yes, the article I posted was about doing the job on a Series 1. On a later LWB car it may be possible to remove the liner via the larger aperture rear door. Another option is to remove the seats and drop the liner on its side to glue up. So I believe there may be ways to do the job without removing the rear window.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 04:33 PM
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yes I did my '84 removing the pad through the rear door.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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I've also done this job, and removed the headliner pad out the back door. Of course the Series 2 and 3 cars had the longer rear doors as Jaguar standardised on the long wheelbase body shell. Series 1 cars had short and long wheelbase variants.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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Hi all,
several years ago my wife and I did the headlining of our P38 Range Rover (1997). It came out the back tailgate which made life easy though it did have a sunroof which the Daimler does not that added to the complexity.
It was a big job but never overwhelming. The results were superb. Having a hanger to work in with unlimited room certainly helped.
After a lifetime of mucking about with (British) cars the one area I have yet to venture into is the removal and replacement of windscreens, I would be very happy to remain in the dark about performing this task. Some say it's no big deal but I suspect different. I will be very pleased if I can get the roof 'biscuit out the rear door.
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 06:45 AM
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"Having a hanger to work in with unlimited room certainly helped" ..... Wow, that would be wonderful. That must be what heaven looks like.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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Hi,
Great information from Jose and others in this thread! (no need to post my question..)
I`ve just bougt an XJ6 -81 and included was a brand new head lining.
Now I soon will try to change it through the back door, and it feels great to avoid removing the front or rear windows... (I belive there is some hidden rust under the finish-up paint..)

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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 12:12 PM
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Jag Headlinings - I think they also have a couple of youtube "How To's". Nice thing is they replace the fiberglass with a flexible plastic backing - roll it up and it "springs" flat inside the car without needing to remove as much.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 07:32 AM
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Anyone in the US ever buy one of these from Jag Headlinings? I just picked up a 1987 that needs it's headliner replaced and the foldable option look like it makes the job much easier.

Just wondering if they ship to the US. And how much it would cost.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 08:58 AM
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I was in contact with them I think in 2020 and they wanted 400gbp to ship to Canada ($500+) and would only accept payment by bank transfer. Maybe things have changed, especially on the shipping charges? Bonus was they'd be able to fit two into one box, for those of us with two droopy Jags or a friend in need.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 09:23 AM
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and how much was the cost of the liner itself in 2020 ?

seems like too much money. I would invest in the fabric, (from BAS Ltd.), the adhesive, (Autozone), and do it locally.

I did mine myself with my girlfriend and it was not such a difficult job, just a lot of dismantling, because I removed all the seats and laid a plastic cover on the floor to work comfortably and protect the carpeting.

In the Series 3 XJ, The liner pad will come out through the rear door without breaking.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Agree with Jose. I did this job by myself with Headliner Fabric from Joanne Fabrics. The color isn't perfect, but close enough if you don't care about car shows. My backer kinked a tiny bit but did not break and I was able to reinforce it and put back in. Been there two + years without any problem. Pretty cheap fix if you don't mind putting in the time and elbow grease. IIRC there are some step by step DIY instructions out there.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 01:41 PM
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Here's a link to a thorough description of replacing an S3 headliner.

https://www.jag-lovers.org/xjlovers/xjfaq/headliner.htm
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 02:17 PM
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you don't have to remove the rear glass in the Series 3.

The liner pad comes out easily using the door opening's widest angle, that's all.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
you don't have to remove the rear glass in the Series 3.

The liner pad comes out easily using the door opening's widest angle, that's all.
That's my planned approach for my S3. Probably going to wait for this heat wave to pass, pretty miserable working on cars outside or in the garage at the moment around here.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 05:32 PM
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yes, it is very muggy too. Use 3M Headliner adhesive spray. Follow the instructions.

The fabric should be laid on the pad at the center by two people, one on each side of the pad, then spread towards the outside using a new paint roller, letting the paint roller's weight do the job. If you press with your hand, it will leave an indent.

I ordered my fabric from BAS Jaguar Interiors, it has held for over 15 years now. Unfortunately my local Joann Fabrics discontinued their headlining materials.
 
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