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Old 09-20-2018, 03:46 PM
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Default Original XJ6C spike wheels or not

I have bought my first jaguar xj6c and wanted know if these are original spike wheels of the xj6c?
I can't find these anywhere online, anybody have ever seen these?

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Are you certain its not a hubcap? I only see one row of spokes...
 
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Originally Posted by Darrenmb
Are you certain its not a hubcap? I only see one row of spokes...
I agree, I think that is a cheap aftermarket hub cap with a growler emblem stuck on. See if you can pry it off and then post a photo of the wheel underneath.
 
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The car looks nice. Can we see some more photos of the car itself?
 
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Good point, thanks for your quick reply. I guess they must be aftermarket hub caps then, I will check on monday. Here are some pics







 
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not original.
 
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Originally Posted by Jose
not original.
Absolutely, definitely, categorically not original. The Series I cars originally had steel wheels (painted) with chrome finisher at the rim and a chrome hub cap at the centre; and the Series II cars had chromed steel wheels - very late Series II V12 cars sometimes had the Kent alloy wheels as fitted to the Series III cars. Wire wheels were NEVER fitted to any of the Series XJ models, and most certainly "wire wheel" hubcaps were never fitted.
 
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Most of these "faux wires" look awful. The OEM's found on many USA cars f the era not all that bad.

These, if mine, would be gone, forthwith. Bare steel would be drab, but honest....

Only worse are the faux alloys for later cars, in plastic!!!!
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Originally Posted by JagCad
Most of these "faux wires" look awful. The OEM's found on many USA cars f the era not all that bad.

These, if mine, would be gone, forthwith. Bare steel would be drab, but honest....

Only worse are the faux alloys for later cars, in plastic!!!!
Carl
How true, Carl. The faux add-ons are never convincing and they always look WRONG, just wrong. There are very few cases in which original designs or original engineering is improved because these attempted "improvements" compromise either the design or the performance. An example of this is the substitution of poly bushings for the original metalastic or rubber bushings. Yes, the poly substitutions may well last longer but they always alter (that is) degrade the refinement for which Jaguarst are known. The steering rack bushings are a perfect example. The XJ6 bushings tend to wear and shift, thus leading to some sloppiness; but putting poly bushings in their place can lead to cracked steering rack mounts (I have seen this) and excessive vibration through the steering wheel; the real fix? Fit the correct Jaguar "Sport" bushings as fitted to the XJS - they have a flange which prevents the excessive movement but without sacrificing that refinement.
And visual add-ons (side mouldings, wheel arch mouldings, wire wheels either semi-real, meaning bolt-on or purely fake hubcaps...) all of these destroy the design integrity of the car...oh, and to this list we should add the US spec small outer headlamps which completely alter (and not for the better) the beautiful frontal design. Once you see the headlamp arrangement as originally intended, the US-market form is just so obviously not right.The photo shows that original design: this is a Canadian-market 1992 V12 Vanden Plas. Lovely.
 

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Old 09-24-2018, 09:42 AM
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Agree, 99%.

Except. the outboard lamps. I did embark on a swap. But, put on a back burner. I'll live with the "little' lamps being satisfied that all lamps obey commands. At times, they rebel, but the finger roll of the fuses restores order.

Decades ago, I embarked on poly bushings for the springs of my Scout II. Scraped in favor of renewal of the original.

A question of usually elegant Jaguar engineering is the transmission mount!!!!

Carl
 
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original is as originally was. Small outboard lamps for USA.. is as original as you can get Don Carlos. That is why I never bothered with the 7 inch lamps, they are NYET original.

I installed John's Cars poly rack bushings in my '84 a long time ago and no broken anything. I simply would never go back to factory rubber. Poly is long life if not forever. I also did front shock poly bushings. No more foam.
 
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