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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 02:37 PM
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I had a flat on one of my wire wheels L:R. Put on a spare which is an original XJ6 rim. I was going to drive the Jag to get the flat repaired and as I did I had a lot of noise and weird feeling in driving. I went home drove about 1 mile both ways and upon inspection where some metal shavings inside the rim. Upon removing the wheel the inside of the rim had a shiny area about a 1/4 inch wide all around the rim where it mounts on the hub. Obviously it was rubbing on something.. My question is why. Do the wire wheels have different lugs or washers than a regular rim?
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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 04:08 PM
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What year is your jaguar

Is the sare Kent wheel?

Oan Pictures help.

Odd. for sure.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 04:55 PM
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Yes, my lug nuts for my steel spare tire wheel and my Dayton Wire Wheels have different lug nuts. The wire wheel lug nuts are Tee shaped in cross section with a cylindrical section going down through the wheel hub. The steel road wheel has a traditional Vee shaped bottom that fits down in a champher in the wheel. They even have different hex sizes so I have to carry two lug wrenches. My spare tire is the older steel wheel used on series 2s that predates the Kent wheels.

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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 05:40 PM
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Yes, my lug nuts for my steel spare tire wheel and my Dayton Wire Wheels have different lug nuts. The wire wheel lug nuts are Tee shaped in cross section with a cylindrical section going down through the wheel hub. The steel road wheel has a traditional Vee shaped bottom that fits down in a champher in the wheel. They even have different hex sizes so I have to carry two lug wrenches. My spare tire is the older steel wheel used on series 2s that predates the Kent wheels.

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this!!!
I have wires, and a regular spare, but have 5 original lug nuts in a zip lock bag with spare
 
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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 06:16 PM
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does the rubbing or scraping happen once per revolution? or continuous?

if once per revolution. check the balancing weight on the rear side of spare wheel is not scraping against the caliper.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2022 | 01:51 PM
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The reference to a steel wheel as spare is a strng clue.

Car Id imortant!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 09:44 AM
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And, just to add, my Jag has Teardrop wheels, but a Kent spare because that's what fits in the spare well.
I too keep the lug nuts that fit the Kents in the trunk with the spare, as they're Different.
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:34 AM
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Belatedly!!

The car in question is a 95 XJS !!

Steel wheels not used on these cars? lattice or star. Each are an alloy.

My 83 sports lattice whees from an earlier XJs. A kent is in as a spare. As elinor says, because, it fits. it is ancoent!!

I used the same ugs. fit just fine.

 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:15 PM
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I see a lot of comments about a steel wheel. This spare I don't believe is steel its alloy. I am posting Phots. You can I think clearly see where the shinny spot is on the inside of the rim. This is where the shavings

Front of wheel

Rear of wheel zoom in on bottom

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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:16 PM
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1991 XJ6 Soverign 4.0
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:18 PM
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Thank you, I will look into but I believe it's is and alloy wheel I just posted photos.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:18 PM
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hanks, I just postephotos.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:19 PM
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Seamed like once per revoluton.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:20 PM
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Pics now posted.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:21 PM
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Thanks no balance weights
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:23 PM
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Sorry, on second look are the balance weighs welded to the outer part of h wheel?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 01:38 PM
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those are "Teardrop" Jaguar wheels. Those started in the 1988 XJ40. Both Elinor and I use them in our Series 2 and 3 XJ-6. Mine is a 1984.

At the rear, I had no issues fitting them with the original "KENT" wheel lugnuts.

In the front I had to space them out with 7/16" inch Spacers and new longer lugnuts to clear the hubcap.

i would try to isolate the issue by fitting the opposite side wheel to the side where the scraping happens.
Mine don't have welded weights, they came with Stick-on weights.
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 02:05 PM
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Weird.

The wheel is attached to the hub so there should not be any movement; the hub and wheel should rotate together with no movement or rubbing between them. Obviously.

I have to wonder if [for some reason] the wheel is not firmly clamped onto the hub, thus allowing movement of one relative to the other. Off hand I'd say that the only way this can happen is if the lugnuts are bottoming out before the wheel is fully clamped onto the hub, thus leaving the wheel loose....even if only very slightly.

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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 02:06 PM
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Send us a pci of the lugnuts you are using

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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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UPDATE: if the car is a 1995 XJ-S , sorry I thought it was a Series 3 XJ-6 (1979-1987). ignore what I wrote. This is posted in the wrong forum section.
 

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