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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Hi all,
I'm thinking to step back my 1973 S1 from electric windows to manual windows due to intermittent problems and in order to simplify electrics.
Is it ok to find 4 manual windows regulators + handles or there are other things to look for?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 05:33 PM
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Hi - Based on the parts manual, the only differentiation between manual and electric regulators is the regulator itself. There is no different window, track or anything else specified except a stiffener to keep the powerful electric motor from bending the inner door.

Being in the US I've never worked on a S1 with manual window regulators - more of our cars have electric versions - but I've seen alot of electric regulators and they mount the same way as the manual with the same hardware. It appears to be a direct swap.

Also just FYI the electric motors are GM parts. If you need motors Cadillacs, Buicks, Pontiacs etc... of the S1 era use the exact same motor. I used to own ALOT of late 60's and early 70's Caddys and have a pile of Caddy motors lying around. Just replaced the passenger side front of one of my 72 XJ6's with one.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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Thank you for the feedback, Mike. Yes, I also checked the parts manual and was quite happy. Then, looking around the web seems that the thing is not so straightforward as I hoped, although the logic is with us. Hope that someone has seen both manual and electric doors or made the conversion in a way or another may give a direct opinion...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 08:16 PM
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I have two S1,s. both in pieces. One is electric the other manual windows. Happy to post photos if it helps.

Malcolm
 
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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 02:37 AM
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Thank you Malcolm! It could be of great help if you have the chance to take a couple of pictures of both


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I have two S1,s. both in pieces. One is electric the other manual windows. Happy to post photos if it helps.

Malcolm
 
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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 07:15 PM
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Atempt number 3 to write this.

Good and bad news.

The bad - I was unable to take any meaningful photos.

The good - just for fun I swapped the manual winder for the electric motor. Fairly straightforward and took about 20 minutes.
Just beware, if you remove the motor from the mechanism in the door, it is spring loaded. Watch your fingers.

Malcolm
 
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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 03:22 AM
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Thank you so much to have solved the problem, Malcolm! Now I know it can be done.
What a wonderful community.
Best,
Asa


Originally Posted by MalnFaye
Atempt number 3 to write this.

Good and bad news.

The bad - I was unable to take any meaningful photos.

The good - just for fun I swapped the manual winder for the electric motor. Fairly straightforward and took about 20 minutes.
Just beware, if you remove the motor from the mechanism in the door, it is spring loaded. Watch your fingers.

Malcolm
 
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