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In ukraine Yes or no Jaguar XJ V12 Series 3 1990 !!

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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg in France
Delivery company! DO not let snow slush or salt anywhere near it!
I mean if I checked a car and it was good? Do you advise me to drive it to my city, 500 km away from the place of sale, or to send the car with a shipping company to deliver cars?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliverukraine
I mean if I checked a car and it was good? Do you advise me to drive it to my city, 500 km away from the place of sale, or to send the car with a shipping company to deliver cars?
Use a shipping company.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 11:13 AM
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The photo below is of a car that indeed was prepared for show - but used regularly. The photo may clarify the matter of the cruise control bellows at the centre of the engine and the AC ports which have a red and a blue caps (because it was retrofitted to R134A refrigerant). These seem to be missing from the Ukranian car or at least not easily visible. This engine is exactly as it left the factory (with the exception of the blue and red caps on the AC - the original caps were black).


 
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sov211
The photo below is of a car that indeed was prepared for show - but used regularly. The photo may clarify the matter of the cruise control bellows at the centre of the engine and the AC ports which have a red and a blue caps (because it was retrofitted to R134A refrigerant). These seem to be missing from the Ukranian car or at least not easily visible. This engine is exactly as it left the factory (with the exception of the blue and red caps on the AC - the original caps were black).

Thank you
and I will check the crosscontrol on the car why its not showing in the car too
but really i don't know how to test the cross control in jaguar 1990😂😂
 
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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Yup. Me too!! Stay in there..

However, some high milege cars are better than others. mintenance. Road miles in lieu of stop and go.

S stated. rust! t can be a deal breaer.

i have had success with high mileage cars. not jaguars. mie came with 115 miles. not bad for it's age at the time i got it. 2001.

As Gregory says, a great car.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 12:39 AM
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Who cares about cruise control, Ive driven thousands of miles and I never use it. I would bargain on the price, and lets face it. Its a good car thats not rusting away. No offense to some of you, but nitpicking is kinda coming across as snobbish. My engine bays always start out nice and clean in the summer and are dirty with the amount of miles I drive, by the following summer. If I skip a year or two, the oil and dust give it a nice patina that always cleans. I get some of you guys have showroom cars but this is not trying to be one, besides in the hands a fellow enthusiast it can clean up nicely. I like this car. As for wiring harness it can be tidied up a bit, as for the wheels and trim, thats what happens when a car is owned by people who like to personalize their cars, as for the wood veneer it can be repaired, but mine is also cracked, yet I love the appearance. Its an old car that has seen several decades of fun, things will require upkeep.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 11:07 AM
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Clearly, those of us who exercise caution (based in part on the condition of the engine shown in the photos) have been misunderstood. This is NOT about keeping an engine clean. It is about what those photos suggest about the care and servicing this particular car has had. And what I see does not instill confidence. We were asked by Oliver to express an opinion; my opinion, based on the ownership of more than 20 of these V12 cars is that this one is to be avoided, especially in current circumstances.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 11:50 AM
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Honestly, I cannot see much wrong with the engine bay of the car the OP is considering; I am not at all clear what aspect of it is the worry. Now your engine bay is exemplary, and I congratulate youy on it; but that is not necessary to have a good reliable car. As my photo showed, mine is much dustier, but the engine is 100%, no leaks, properly maintained, wiring OK. I just cannot see the point in cleaning it!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 12:23 PM
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I tend to agree with Greg in France. All three of my Jaguars are in top mechanical condition but I don’t detail the engine bay. A thorough test drive, a complete inspection of the body and under side looking for rust or damage repair and then decide.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 12:39 PM
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Old like me. 93. i require upkeep.

A few wrinles in te veneer are well earned patina. A bit of cleanng and waxing makes them look very nice.

My car's cordovan brown is original. imperfect, fpor sure. shies up well enough to get cmpliments. unlike me. I nop loger shine up well1

Even my 94 Jeep is still tight, cleand shony. gotta get a battery for it!!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow series3
I tend to agree with Greg in France. All three of my Jaguars are in top mechanical condition but I don’t detail the engine bay. A thorough test drive, a complete inspection of the body and under side looking for rust or damage repair and then decide.
You are still missing the point OR I have failed to make the point clear (very possible). It is NOT, repeat NOT about keeping the engine clean or detailed - that is irrelevant. The photos I posted were for the purpose of showing what the engine should look like if it has correct parts on it! Not whether those parts are clean or dirty.
It is about the missing components, the parts substituted for OEM bits (the red wiring to the injectors?) and the general very tired look of that engine compartment…it is about what all of that shows about the way the car has been maintained or may not have been maintained and what putting the car in safe, reliable condition may cost a prospective new owner. Again, this has nothing to do with whether the engine compartment is clean.
Oliver asked for opinions based on what we see in the photos. Presumably he wants opinions from people who have actually owned a V12 car (or cars). The V12 version of the Series III is very different from the 6 cylinder variant, and engine maintenance is significantly more involved; if problems arise because of lack of proper maintenance - which to me the photos suggest as a strong possibility - the expenses can be enormous.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2022 | 02:39 PM
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my ukranian friend I praise you for buying a Jaguar in the time slot your in. youre literally investing into a car when timing is at worse for you. I must say ive never seen these type of jags before and can see why youre interested, your name/origin is what caught my attention and had me follow along this thread. A true dream car indeed, best of luck mate in the real world and as a car investor.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 01:08 PM
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Plesde I have uploaded two video for car
please check it please

https://files.fm/u/mdgzjjz52

 
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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 05:16 PM
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I had a quick look. The car doesn't look too bad at all, but where is the left side exhaust pipe ? Please remind me what price they are demanding for the car.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 06:48 PM
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The idle speed is disturbingly high….if the engine was at operating temperature then the auxiliary air valve needs adjustment or possibly, replacement.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fraser Mitchell
I had a quick look. The car doesn't look too bad at all, but where is the left side exhaust pipe ? Please remind me what price they are demanding for the car.
15.000$
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sov211
The idle speed is disturbingly high….if the engine was at operating temperature then the auxiliary air valve needs adjustment or possibly, replacement.
you are right 100%
How much it ? And can send me link for part
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:55 AM
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Here video under the car plesse please 🙏 check it

https://files.fm/u/8vqbube8s
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliverukraine
Here video under the car plesse please 🙏 check it

https://files.fm/u/8vqbube8s
Left side exhaust box seems to have no rear pipe that passes through the rear valance like the other side.
As to price, $15k = £12.4k
How does this car compare to others at similar prices ? Well, here's a UK car up for £13k
https://www.townsendvehiclesales.co....b-87b9440ed97e
Compare. I think the car you are looking at is overpriced, to be honest.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 10:47 PM
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I watched the videos and some things I see:

-Exhaust has had replacement pieces, no idea why there are flex pipes at the manifold, there is no need for them. Left side rear muffler is hanging too low and the tailpipe is missing
-I see a rust bubble on the drivers fender, there is always more behind that you can't see, those parts rust from the inside out.
-The right rear lower valance has rust bubbles too. The fuel tank is behind that valance, so I would be concerned about rust on the tank.
-The car has been repainted, the overspray is visible on the front suspension. I suspect there is probably more hidden rust, as we can see some small rust spots on the sill and a crushed portion on the left rear sill area.
As Gregory mentioned, idle speed is high. Could be the AAV, the part number depends on the car's VIN and emission spec and they are not cheap - about £270 GBP.

Assuming the asking price is $15,000 USD (?), a car recently sold in Canada with only 42,000km in nearly perfect condition for less than half that. I realize Jaguar's are not nearly as common in Ukraine, but this one seems expensive for the condition and km. This is the auction car: https://formulaauctions.com/auction-...7f#auc-gallery

If it was me, I'd look for a better car.
 
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