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Has anyone installed a 3 point seatbelt in the USA crap auto system?

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Old Nov 19, 2017 | 10:52 PM
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My passive system is broken and all I have is a lap belt. I would hate to find myself being restrained by that and a nardi steering wheel! I have a 3 point system that I got out of an old car I found in the junkyard. One thing i never even thought about ripping it out was the fact my car doesn't have a hole in the b pillar trim for the bolt or the rectangular hole in the rear trim for the belt to go through to the bottom anchor. So... do I start making some holes or find some trim? Also, I never got the female belt catch as I assumed the ones in my car would be the same for the buckle.... it is not. Does anyone have any photos of the trim on or off showing where the anchor points are?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 01:35 AM
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To access the B pillar:
Remove the coat hook
Remove the crash roll (the long headliner-covered trim above the side windows) it just pulls out
This should, repeat should, allow you to remove the trim, carefully wriggling it out of the rear passenger's elbow/speaker trim piece.
If it does not, you have to remove the rear seat to then remove the rear passenger elbow and speaker trim. Post again if needed.
I am prepared to bet that the captive bolt fixing for the belt will be there on the pillar under the trim. Making a hole should be easy enough.
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 11:17 AM
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I doubt you can just find the lip from the interior panels on other years. You could potentially cut the card and leave the leather full length, so you can properly wrap it inside and glue, but the belt will quickly rub it away.
You basically have to find a car in a yard or otherwise for parts that you can steal the belts, rear panel, and A pillar to B pillar trim out of.

If I was trying to find a picture for the belt attachment and couldn't find one looking for seatbelt threads, I'd try looking for pics where people are servicing their rear windows in convertibles. Otherwise, I have an '88 so I really don't know. My side works, so I've just gotten used to it.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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I'm working on installing aftermarket 3pt belts and making new b pillar covers out of fiberglass then having them covered in leather. Will let you know how/if it all works out
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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My solution was much simpler: Pull out the fuses when the automatic seat belt is engaged. Now I have two manual seatbelts.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kmarajh
I'm working on installing aftermarket 3pt belts and making new b pillar covers out of fiberglass then having them covered in leather. Will let you know how/if it all works out
id be interested in seeing it. Are you cutting into the rear armrest?

Originally Posted by Andreas Schmieg
My solution was much simpler: Pull out the fuses when the automatic seat belt is engaged. Now I have two manual seatbelts.
Ha so do you leave the shoulder in place? I can barely get in the car as is.

Originally Posted by Greg in France
To access the B pillar:
Remove the coat hook
Remove the crash roll (the long headliner-covered trim above the side windows) it just pulls out
This should, repeat should, allow you to remove the trim, carefully wriggling it out of the rear passenger's elbow/speaker trim piece.
If it does not, you have to remove the rear seat to then remove the rear passenger elbow and speaker trim. Post again if needed.
I am prepared to bet that the captive bolt fixing for the belt will be there on the pillar under the trim. Making a hole should be easy enough.
Greg
Yeah I've always figured the anchor spots must still be under the trim. I can't imagine they somehow filled them while the rest of the world still had actual belts. I know of a junkyard car with the 3 points still in it but it's getting colder by the day and will probably have to wait till next spring. I'd like to grab the rear armrest/trim with belt slot and b pillar trim and of course the female buckle. If the color is off I'd just vinyl paint it tan. Such a terrible system and of course broken. Oh well... part of the restoring fun right? Ha
 
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