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Old 06-18-2016, 08:07 PM
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How easy is it to fit a Rear Anti Roll Bar and where can I get one?

Is it just a straight bolt on, or is any drilling involved.

How much difference would it make to the handling and would it be worth it.

Does anyone have any relevant Pics that they could Share.

I don't want to go for lower Springs, or anything like that, as I can only just clear the road humps near my house.
 
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
How easy is it to fit a Rear Anti Roll Bar and where can I get one?

Is it just a straight bolt on, or is any drilling involved.

How much difference would it make to the handling and would it be worth it.

Does anyone have any relevant Pics that they could Share.

I don't want to go for lower Springs, or anything like that, as I can only just clear the road humps near my house.
Most cars have the mount studs already in place under car in the area of rear seat back. so you only need bar, bushes and mount plates. Radius arms vary with some having the mount point and some not so you may or may not need to swap them over.
 

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Baxtor is right.

The 4 studs, 2 each side, MAY be fitted to a 1990, my 1985 was.

Go to Grubloggers, get the sway bar. drop inks, trailing arms, "D" brackets.

Mostly PreHE XJ-S had them, but NOT all. Jaguar fitted, removed, fitted, removed, that rear bar at random throughout the early days of the XJ-S.

Makes a difference, HELL YES>

We fitted one to the S2 Daimler, oh boy, what a transformation.

I would NOT mess with aftermarket kits, thats me, no other reason, the Jag set up is good and it WORKS.
 
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Originally Posted by Grant Francis
Baxtor is right.

The 4 studs, 2 each side, MAY be fitted to a 1990, my 1985 was.

Go to Grubloggers, get the sway bar. drop inks, trailing arms, "D" brackets.

Mostly PreHE XJ-S had them, but NOT all. Jaguar fitted, removed, fitted, removed, that rear bar at random throughout the early days of the XJ-S.

Makes a difference, HELL YES>

We fitted one to the S2 Daimler, oh boy, what a transformation.

I would NOT mess with aftermarket kits, thats me, no other reason, the Jag set up is good and it WORKS.
Hi Grant@Baxtor Cheers,

In that case Its worth looking into, as it sounds like an easy handling fix to do.
 
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My experience on my 91 conv with the stock 5/8" rear anti roll bar was fabricating & welding brackets to the radius arms, replaced both arm bushings, dropping the rear part of the exhaust, and I had my springs/shocks off but don't know if that's necessary for bar work, but certainly makes the job easier. I also replaced the front 7/8" anti roll bar with the stock sport 1" to get the full benefit, a whole other installation subject.
I bought my entire stock rear bar assembly used. Buying stock link pins may be a problem along with cost for the entire project. I don't know.
I would only do it again IF I picked up the entire bar assembly very cheap and had the IRS down for what ever reason. IMO I don't think the average driver would notice the handling difference maybe the firmer ride though. Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
Rear Anti Roll Bar and where can I get one?

Here's a start, but you'll still need a few bits


Jaguar XJS Sports Pack Rear Anti Roll Bar 16mm | eBay

Jaguar XJS Rear Anti Roll Bar 14mm | eBay


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Originally Posted by 44lawrence
My experience on my 91 conv with the stock 5/8" rear anti roll bar was fabricating & welding brackets to the radius arms, replaced both arm bushings, dropping the rear part of the exhaust, and I had my springs/shocks off but don't know if that's necessary for bar work, but certainly makes the job easier. I also replaced the front 7/8" anti roll bar with the stock sport 1" to get the full benefit, a whole other installation subject.
I bought my entire stock rear bar assembly used. Buying stock link pins may be a problem along with cost for the entire project. I don't know.
I would only do it again IF I picked up the entire bar assembly very cheap and had the IRS down for what ever reason. IMO I don't think the average driver would notice the handling difference maybe the firmer ride though. Just my opinion.
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Cheers Lawrence

Definite food for thought on that.
 
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Originally Posted by Doug
Cheers Doug

There doesn't look much to it, except I wouldn't know how to fit it on.
 
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
Cheers Doug

There doesn't look much to it, except I wouldn't know how to fit it on.
It's pretty easy, just nuts-n-bolts...especially if your car already has the stud plates in the floor pan.

Maybe this illustration will help:

Anti Roll Bar-5.3 Litre-Sportspack - Parts For XJS from (V)139052 to (V)179736 | Jaguar Classic Parts UK

You'll need:

-the bar itself
-brackets and bushings to mount the bar to the body
-end links, bar-to-radius arms
-radius arms with brackets to accept the end links, or weld little brackets to your existing radius arms
-bolts and nuts as needed

That's really all there is to it

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Actually the best suspension upgrade I made was fitting the Harvey Bailey "X" frame in the front in order to control "shuttle shake" in XJ-S Conv's ,(said to be a common problem with the conv.) I don't know if that company is around anymore . It was pretty pricey , around $300.
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Originally Posted by Doug
It's pretty easy, just nuts-n-bolts...especially if your car already has the stud plates in the floor pan.

Maybe this illustration will help:

Anti Roll Bar-5.3 Litre-Sportspack - Parts For XJS from (V)139052 to (V)179736 | Jaguar Classic Parts UK

You'll need:

-the bar itself
-brackets and bushings to mount the bar to the body
-end links, bar-to-radius arms
-radius arms with brackets to accept the end links, or weld little brackets to your existing radius arms
-bolts and nuts as needed

That's really all there is to it

Cheers
DD



Cheers
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Cheers Doug

That doesn't sound too bad and so I'll start looking round for some parts.
 
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Originally Posted by 44lawrence
Actually the best suspension upgrade I made was fitting the Harvey Bailey "X" frame in the front in order to control "shuttle shake" in XJ-S Conv's ,(said to be a common problem with the conv.) I don't know if that company is around anymore . It was pretty pricey , around $300.
Lawrence
Hi Lawrence

I've never heard of one of those before, so I'll check it out.

Many Thanks.
 
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I agree with Grant, DO NOT by an aftermarket one unless you get a guarantee it will fit. I bought a Pedders rear SB kit and there is NO way I can get it fit so its been sitting in the shed for 6 years.
 
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I agree with Grant, DO NOT by an aftermarket one unless you get a guarantee it will fit. I bought a Pedders rear SB kit and there is NO way I can get it fit so its been sitting in the shed for 6 years.
Ok Warrjon

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I have a Driven Man (DM) front & rear bar's on mine. Everything was in the kit & fit perfect but must mention the DM rear bar is thicker and a thicker front bar really should be considered. I was impressed with the billet link pins & bushings, but had to use big washers on all four bushing sides to make sure they stay in the link's. One bushing fell out and getting a new one off DM was a big DEAL. His rear bar included the radius arm (RA) to bar brackets that should be welded on if the car was not factory fitted you must fabricate & weld . Welding without r&r the rear RA bush could melt the bush rubber. In any case it was good time to restore the radius arms.
 

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Originally Posted by 44lawrence
I have a Driven Man (DM) front & rear bar's on mine. Everything was in the kit & fit perfect but must mention the DM rear bar is thicker and a thicker front bar really should be considered. I was impressed with the billet link pins & bushings, but had to use big washers on all four bushing sides to make sure they stay in the link's. One bushing fell out and getting a new one off DM was a big DEAL. His rear bar included the radius arm (RA) to bar brackets that should be welded on if the car was not factory fitted you must fabricate & weld . Welding without r&r the rear RA bush could melt the bush rubber. In any case it was good time to restore the radius arms.
Cheers Lawrence

That's useful to know.
 
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OB,

Maybe a controversial view but I wouldn't bother if I were you. I agree that it might tighten things up even on a Sportspack model, but remember that Jaguar deleted the rear anti-roll bar on late XJSs.

I think that money is better spent making sure that you have good quality springs and adjustable shocks. That will give you a perfectly acceptable rear end. If your ground clearance is low, it might be that your rear springs and shocks are already somewhat worn and a rear A/R bar is just going to slightly mask a bigger problem.

With my revised springs and shocks, and radius arm bushes fitted as per JaguarSport, I have set up the rear end on mine to what I consider is really quite an acceptable level.

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Originally Posted by ptjs1
OB,

but remember that Jaguar deleted the rear anti-roll bar on late XJSs.

Penny pinchers !


Yes, Jaguar deleted it on the HE cars but perhaps realizing their mistake, re-introduced it on the 3.6 cars and, later, on some of the 5.3 Sportspack cars. Later still (as I recall) it was standard fit on the last couple years of 4.0 coupes (but not convertibles)

So Jaguar was certainly not too terribly opposed to using a rear bar.

But, you're right in that there are many other ways to get the improvements we're fater.

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Doug,

It wasn't fitted at all on even Sportspack cars for the last few years of production. I agree that it was all to do with money vs performance. So it seems sports springs and shocks were deemed more important than a rear A/R bar.

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Originally Posted by ptjs1
Doug,

It wasn't fitted at all on even Sportspack cars for the last few years of production. I agree that it was all to do with money vs performance. So it seems sports springs and shocks were deemed more important than a rear A/R bar.
My opinion is that as the XJS become more 'personal luxury car' oriented rather than 'performance oriented', Jaguar simply felt that not many people would notice the difference or even care...but then changed their minds a couple times along the way

Anyhow, I've yet to hear from anyone who has installed the rear bar that wasn't delighted with the improvement even if Jaguar couldn't quite make up their minds whether we should have it or not !

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