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Old Nov 9, 2021 | 06:46 PM
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So my V12 has been feeling not quite right for some time. There was a roughness about the engine. Both at idle and throughout the rev range

Checked everything I could think of. I also had a persistent FF44 error code. Replaced the O2 sensor in the A bank, but it reappeared shortly.

Last week, I pulled the old plugs as a last resort. One spark plug was gapped at 0.015, the other at 0.040

Regapped them and took it out for a test. The difference was astounding. The engine is so much smoother. And the idle is very stable.

I have never seen an engine so sensitive to plug gap
 

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Old Nov 9, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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It's because of the combustion chamber design and the relatively high compression of the HE engine. That .025" gap is specified for a reason!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 11:30 AM
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A simple way to check the tune of your V12 is buy one of those $25 infrared thermometer’s point it at each cylinder’s exhaust manifold. If they are all the same. Then all 12 are firing properly and everything is as it should be .
If one or more is cooler then you need to check the plugs and or the injectors. I have a cheap pen like device that set on a spark plugs wire tells me if it’s getting a good spark.
I also have a cheap stereoscope to set on each injector to listen to it firing.
It takes me about 10 minutes to check everything.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 11:39 AM
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Your right about the IR. I have one on my sailboat, where I use it to monitor coolant flow during engine checks.

I do use a stethescope for the injectors. That is how I found (with my noid) my injector harness was bad.

I also have one of the spark pens. I also found a defective lead in a new set of plug wires.

These procedures should be part of checking my tuneups.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scottpeterd

I have never seen an engine so sensitive to plug gap
I've often speculated that there is no such thing as a "Marelli Failure", ie it isn't a failure of the Marelli system or parts. The real culprit is incorrectly gapped plugs which create the conditions of failure. Akin to how a light switch is burned up by poor connections and high resistance, and we never refer to that as a "switch failure".

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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scottpeterd
Your right about the IR. I have one on my sailboat, where I use it to monitor coolant flow during engine checks.

I do use a stethescope for the injectors. That is how I found (with my noid) my injector harness was bad.

I also have one of the spark pens. I also found a defective lead in a new set of plug wires.

These procedures should be part of checking my tuneups.
those simple aides sure make diagnosing a V12 easier.
 
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