Steering not returning to center
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Steering not returning to center
Nice weather this weekend for the first time since Christmas, so traded out the series 3 daily for the XJ-S on Friday. Aside from an occasional idle hunting, it ran well all weekend. This afternoon, however, I noticed it's a little sluggish to return to center after turning the wheel right or left.
Tires are all at 37 psi with plenty of tread left on them. Car drives straight without drifting right or left, corners flat, is wicked responsive and sticks to the road like it's on rails.
Rack was replaced within 10k miles, steering pump and hoses replaced within 5k miles. No leaking power steering fluid.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Rhett
Tires are all at 37 psi with plenty of tread left on them. Car drives straight without drifting right or left, corners flat, is wicked responsive and sticks to the road like it's on rails.
Rack was replaced within 10k miles, steering pump and hoses replaced within 5k miles. No leaking power steering fluid.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Rhett
Last edited by Rhett; 01-29-2017 at 09:11 PM.
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#3
Further to Doug's point: assuming fluid levels are OK and fluid not thickening up for temp reasons, you could jack up the front and, engine off, see if there is any resistance you can feel while turning full lock to full lock.
If there is, and you have a ball join separator, disconnect one of the steering rack to steering arm balljoints, then the other, then both, and see which side or if the rack itself, has some resistance to swivelling.
Greg
If there is, and you have a ball join separator, disconnect one of the steering rack to steering arm balljoints, then the other, then both, and see which side or if the rack itself, has some resistance to swivelling.
Greg
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I am only with this if the owner has adjusted the caster, or worked on (eg) new balljoints, and the problem he describes has appeared afterwards. I got the impression this fault had appeared on its own after a bit of a winter layoff. Obviously I could be wrong!
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Drove it to dry storage this morning, it's determined that it's not just that the wheel doesn't return to center: There is a bit less power assist when turning right or left but it's worse turning left. There's a spot about 11 o'clock to about 10 o'clock (turning left) where the power assist drops significantly and then, from 9 o'clock to the lock, the power assist resumes, somewhat.
The pump was a rebuilt unit, installed less than 5k miles ago. The rack was replaced when we got the car about 10k miles ago but it's may have been a rebuilt unit as well (I didn't source parts then the way I do now).
I haven't had anything done to the ball joints or made any adjustments to the front end for some time.
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Correct. I drove the car last on Christmas eve, before this weekend. It was fine until suddenly, during the drive, it wasn't.
Drove it to dry storage this morning, it's determined that it's not just that the wheel doesn't return to center: There is a bit less power assist when turning right or left but it's worse turning left. There's a spot about 11 o'clock to about 10 o'clock (turning left) where the power assist drops significantly and then, from 9 o'clock to the lock, the power assist resumes, somewhat.
The pump was a rebuilt unit, installed less than 5k miles ago. The rack was replaced when we got the car about 10k miles ago but it's may have been a rebuilt unit as well (I didn't source parts then the way I do now).
I haven't had anything done to the ball joints or made any adjustments to the front end for some time.
Drove it to dry storage this morning, it's determined that it's not just that the wheel doesn't return to center: There is a bit less power assist when turning right or left but it's worse turning left. There's a spot about 11 o'clock to about 10 o'clock (turning left) where the power assist drops significantly and then, from 9 o'clock to the lock, the power assist resumes, somewhat.
The pump was a rebuilt unit, installed less than 5k miles ago. The rack was replaced when we got the car about 10k miles ago but it's may have been a rebuilt unit as well (I didn't source parts then the way I do now).
I haven't had anything done to the ball joints or made any adjustments to the front end for some time.
Pump rebuild not working correctly
Rebuilt rack not working correctly
Steering rack balljoint/s failing.
POSSIBLE constriction/blockage in the high pressure hose
Still worth changing the PS fluid, just in case. After that, in your position I would still do the tests I mentioned, after that if nothing conclusive, start with the pump and inspect the hoses, maybe a seal has become displaced etc, and it is the cheapest thing to replace first.
Greg
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System was bled and given new fluid but the problem persists. It doesn't feel like I'm losing power assist as I turn the wheel but like it's encountering increasing resistance until the resistance goes away like going over a bulge. Once over "the bulge", the wheel requires additional force to go back past the "bulge" to return to 12 o'clock. I've tried to illustrate it using the clock face attached. Does that make sense and, if so, does it indicate anything specific?
Trying to document the resistance in the steering on my XJS
Trying to document the resistance in the steering on my XJS
#11
Well, the general consensus is that there's a mechanical (as opposed to hydraulic) problem with the steering rack. Which is annoying because that was one of the first things I had replaced on the car only 10k miles ago. But it was with one of the first 3 mechanics I ultimately fired on my way to finding the shop I enjoy working with now. Maybe this one will do the trick.
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Pump is functioning correctly.
Ball joints look good.
Hoses look good.
No PS fluid leaking.
Anything else we should/could try?
Thanks in advance,
Rhett
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