XJS Prices Seem to be Climbing: Will it Become the Next True Collectible Jaguar?
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Mguar (10-29-2021)
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Agreed, but "250 Ferrari" covers a lot of territory.
An nice early 60s 250GTE is probably in the $250-400k range. This was, in essence, the bread-and-butter variant; quite a few sold by Ferrari standards. Nice cars. I wanna say that they were at least 3x the price of an E-type when new.
A 250 Lusso or 250 GTO or any of the other more exotic "250" variants are in the millions, yes. Many millions. Crazy, man. Crazy.
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ShiPing would set ypu back about $1600 and import duties are vehicle price + transport = tax figure in USD, convert to EUR, add 19% VAT and about 10% import duties and you have your import.
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As said, VAT and import duties. All vary throughout Europe. Luckily we still have the EU for inner-European businesses.
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Plus the going price for a junked solid V12 engine with a warranty. It’s cheaper to replace the V12 with a V12 than the alternatives.
If the owner reads the books watches U tube and does his own work. Ownership isn’t horribly expensive.
Making Jaguar ownership a real pleasure.
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A 96 Silver XJS conv. went for $10,000 on Mecume Auction a little while ago. The car was beautiful, at least what I could tell from the quick look at it. Of course I don't know the mileage or if it was in an accident but it sure looked good.
I bought a 96 conv. a little while ago and payed too much. At least the car is real nice. It seemed to me that if you want a REAL nice one you have to pay for it. Plus there may be a car that you would like for a reasonable price but you have to go to the ends of the earth to check it out. You have to be very careful. Buyer be ware.
I bought a 96 conv. a little while ago and payed too much. At least the car is real nice. It seemed to me that if you want a REAL nice one you have to pay for it. Plus there may be a car that you would like for a reasonable price but you have to go to the ends of the earth to check it out. You have to be very careful. Buyer be ware.
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I may have seen a link here that the XJS is one of the leading cars being repatriated to England. That makes sense. There are a lot of them in the U.S. Generally prices are low, at least for cars that need some work. If I want to see prices go up I should just sell mine cheap. That worked when I sold my Datsun Z cars.
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Mkii250 (11-01-2021)
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Here in Europe prices have risen somewhat, but not by much compared to other classic cars. And always talking about special units or in perfect condition.
I have a 3.6 manual, which are rare, theoretically sought after by collectors for their gearbox, and it is very very difficult to sell them. There are many units for sale months and months and they are not sold, that simple. And most are not at crazy prices. They sell well if it is at a bargain price.
It's a car, at least in Europe, difficult to sell, with a bad reputation for reliability, consumption (especially the V12), or expensive to maintain. On the comparison with the E Type, it is to laugh ... it will NEVER have the same value, the E Type is an icon, a myth. Even looking at the economics, there is not that much difference in money between restoring an E Type and an XJS, and then the E Type is 10 times the value.
I have a 3.6 manual, which are rare, theoretically sought after by collectors for their gearbox, and it is very very difficult to sell them. There are many units for sale months and months and they are not sold, that simple. And most are not at crazy prices. They sell well if it is at a bargain price.
It's a car, at least in Europe, difficult to sell, with a bad reputation for reliability, consumption (especially the V12), or expensive to maintain. On the comparison with the E Type, it is to laugh ... it will NEVER have the same value, the E Type is an icon, a myth. Even looking at the economics, there is not that much difference in money between restoring an E Type and an XJS, and then the E Type is 10 times the value.
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ronbros (11-01-2021)
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This is a field that has been plowed many times before! It's always the same thing, desirability, coupled with scarcity, equals high prices. Even when discussing E types, early E type convertibles are worth much more than the later models. I remember when old E types were worth very little, and they had a horrible reputation for reliability. Old American muscle cars from the late 60's were likewise unwanted during the fuel crises of the 1970's. Today their values are incredible.
Scarcity alone won't ensure high prices, my Mark VII is a rare car and it hasn't seen a huge increase in value!
Restoration costs are similar between different models of cars. Bodywork and paint, upholstery and interior trimming, and mechanical rebuilding are going to be similar. The E has an advantage in that it is an analog car, opposed to the XJS which is an electronic car. Electronic fuel injection, abs, and a lot of electronic interfacing makes the car more complicated and due to the age of these systems and the worry about finding the proper replacements when needed, many would choose to get involved with a simpler car.
I don't anticipate that the XJS will ever be as valuable as an E type, but taken on it's own merits, it's a fantastic car that remains affordable to many enthusiasts. It is bound to increase in value over the years as others discover and become more familiar with it.
Scarcity alone won't ensure high prices, my Mark VII is a rare car and it hasn't seen a huge increase in value!
Restoration costs are similar between different models of cars. Bodywork and paint, upholstery and interior trimming, and mechanical rebuilding are going to be similar. The E has an advantage in that it is an analog car, opposed to the XJS which is an electronic car. Electronic fuel injection, abs, and a lot of electronic interfacing makes the car more complicated and due to the age of these systems and the worry about finding the proper replacements when needed, many would choose to get involved with a simpler car.
I don't anticipate that the XJS will ever be as valuable as an E type, but taken on it's own merits, it's a fantastic car that remains affordable to many enthusiasts. It is bound to increase in value over the years as others discover and become more familiar with it.
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If you go on Hemmings you will find XJS's that are asking $30.000. There is one that I wanted in New York that was asking $28,900. I called the guy and he told me it sold the first day it appeared on Hemmings. This was about 2 months ago. I think it is still for sale on Hemmings. ( I just looked. It's still there) They didn't delete the add. The car was beautiful with low mileage and I would have have bought it. With the amount of cars available I can't see paying any more than that for a good one. As for the future I think it will take a long time for those cars to bring much more. Maybe when our dollar is worth 10 cents a wheel barrow full of dollars will buy one. The way we're going that may not be too far away.
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ronbros (11-02-2021)
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Greg, I agree with the first part of your statement about zero interest policies etc. but explain why you said " the fundamentals are all going for the V12 XJS " and not rather all XJS' ? Last I checked all the fundamentals you listed were just as much a part of the inline 6 XJS as the V12 XJS.
Right now I have my eye on 3 XJS v12’s from rust belt states that were never driven in winter or even the rain with relatively low mileage where the asking price is $2000 or less.
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