128271

Thanks!

 

VIN: JNACW4CC 128271 Reg Number:

Description: 5.3 CABRIOLET 1986
Dispatched Date: 03-Dec-1985 CSO Number: 000000
Sold Date: 20-Mar-1986 Sold By: N7964 - Jaguar Deutschland GmbH





Paint: No description found Trim Color: Isis Blue

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Warranty Coverage


Policy: Expires: Odometer: Deductible:
CORROSION WARRANTY 19-Mar-1987 999999
PAINT WARRANTY 19-Mar-1987 999999
SERVICE ITEMS WARRANTY 19-Mar-1987 999999
STANDARD FACTORY WARRANTY 19-Mar-1987 999999

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Open Field Service Actions
Code FSA Message
A349 INSTALL C/CONTROL DUMP VALVE
R351 FUEL TANK PURGE SYSTEM

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Wow thanks for all the info!

So it was sold in Germany originally, and imported to the US at some point. And it is a genuine Cabriolet.


Do you know how to interpret this?

Open Field Service Actions
Code FSA Message
A349 INSTALL C/CONTROL DUMP VALVE
R351 FUEL TANK PURGE SYSTEM

 

If it was a US or Canadian spec car, I believe the 5th digit would be a Y.

 

It's interesting that they completely changed the VIN except for the last 6 digits. I was not aware that that was allowed but as Doug said the private import scene was quite different back in this days. I wonder when it was imported into the USA?

 

Interesting. So, in reference to Doug's early post, we now have both VINs for the car.

North American VIN:SAJNV5845GC128271 XJ 2dr Coupe
EU Standard VIN: JNACW4CC 128271 5.3 CABRIOLET 1986

Perhaps the North American VIN recorded the car as a Coupe instead of Cabriolet because Jaguar's North American VIN structure couldn't accommodate the Cabriolet designation until 1987?

 

I don't think so, the cabriolet was sold in the US in both 86 and 87 AFAIK.

 

Interesting.. I thought they were sold in the US for 87-88. According to the below website, they were only produced for the European market in 1986.

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/ma...5_sc/1986.html

They were produced for North America starting in 1987 through 88

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...cabriolet.html

Cabriolets were in production for Europe from 1983-1988.

And that's a great question about when it was dispatched to the US. I would imagine it would be fairly soon after it's production to make it worthwhile considering import hurdles, but that's just posturing.

 

No, worldwide Cabriolets were introduced in 1983 as a 3.6L version and the V12 came along in 1985. I always thought that cabriolet production stopped in 1987 when the factory convertible was introduced.

My information shows that there were 575 cabriolets sold in the US in 1986 and 1,015 sold in 1987. No Cabriolets appear to have been sold in the 1988 MY?

 

I *think* the DOT would've assigned a new VIN, somehow in cooperation with Jaguar?

I dunno how that worked but I've seen some gray market cars with door jamb tags that show the importer, date of federalization, and a new VIN which doesn't match the original 'born with' VIN that could still be seen elsewhere on the car. Lord knows how many different ways thing could get bollixed up.

<shrug>

I'm not speaking with authority on the subject, as you can no doubt tell!

Hopefully the car would come with a whole folder of paperwork that would help explain what happened

Cheers
DD

 

Sorry, I edited my post with some new links. You're correct that they were produced worldwide 83-88. Perhaps the 575 sold in 1986 were imports from the European market? I'm fairly certain production for the North American market didn't start until 1987.

 

I am pretty sure they were available as a 1988. The difference in the 1988 I think was the wood console veneer. We has an 88 sent to have the Lister 5 speed conversion done, that car sat for over a year before it sold.

 

There's currently an (overpriced, I think) 1988 XJSC for sale here:

1988 Jaguar XJSC for Sale - Gateway Classic Cars

Those 575 from 1986 are curious though...

 

They were definitely introduced in the US in 1986 as a 1986 model. We have to of them in my Jag club.

Here is a link to a guy that was selling one on youtube. You can see the high mounted stop lamp.


I never knew that they were available in 1988 though, you learn something new everyday

 

Well, we seem to have proved each other wrong!

Must have been sold in the US, for the US market, from 1986-1988. This car in particular, though, is still a grey market import given the sale information from JgaXkr I think. Going to look at it this week, hoping I might find out more about it.

The only thing I can think of to explain the body style discrepancy between the US and EU VINs is some sort of error made upon federalization. Perhaps when the DOT (or whoever) assigned the new VIN, they called it a coupe instead of Cabriolet, give that as of '86 Cabriolets were very rare in the states and thus they were unfamiliar with the body style? Is this plausible?

 

Could be, or possibly if it was imported only recently, they may not have seen cabriolet as an option?

In some ways that makes some sense because if you import a car that is at least 25 years old (I think) you don't have to worry about emissions etc. I think if you had bought over a 1986MY car in 1986, you would have had to bring the car up to US spec in terms of emissions and also the third tail lamp?

 

That is a good point about it potentially being brought over recently. If the dealer doesn't know the history, I don't know how I'd find out other than maybe the heritage cert.

 

There's always the International Cabriolet Registry....devoted to XJS Cabriolets. You could do some digging around and see if the car shows up. Might be able to pick up a clue or two.

Cheers
DD

 

Thanks Doug, I've actually joined already and begun digging for information. Maybe something will turn up!

 

Well, beleive it or not, the car is listed there! But can't find any details about it except the below picture. Looks like it was fitted with the starfish wheels at some point inbetween 2011 (when the photo was taken) and now. There's also a license plate frame on the front. but I can't make it out.