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I found a 2013 XK, 2 owner car (first was a lease) with complete records, always serviced at a Land Rover /Jaguar dealership. My question is, would you consider a 100k mile XK at the right price or pass altogether?
1/2 or more of the life of the car has passed. Coupled with an elevated level of maintenance costs due to the miles and age, it should be appropriately priced.
Would not put me off providing the maintenance has strictly been adhered to , Things that jaguar maintenance won't tell you is , Transmission filter and fluid change , budget 500 bucks for then there are the ancillary belt and supercharged belt then the spark plugs need changed , Me I would tell them that to their face then give them an offer, if they accept far game if not Walk away
I have 96K on mine right now and it's running fine. I bought it at 75K. I had to work out some kinks.
Previously I had a 2003 XK8 that I drove to about 130K with no major issues. I would have gladly driven it to 200K but I had to sell because of financial issues. The main concern would be the timing chain tensioners. They are a known issue on the 5.0 liter engines. Jaguar upgraded the tensioners at some point, but I'm not sure when that was. SDD will show the runout on the tensioners and whether or not they are still within spec. At 96K miles mine are still smack dab in the middle of the normal range, so I'm not concerned about the tensioners at this point.
Last edited by Reverend Sam; Jun 27, 2020 at 07:30 PM.
So basically, I'm saying that I wouldn't worry about 100K miles if the price is right and it was well-maintained. Do you intend for it to be a daily driver or a weekend fun car? If it's a weekend fun car, buy it (for the right price) and enjoy it.
The dealership (that has a great reputation) sent me interior cabin photos which show quite a bit of wear, a great deal more than in my 09 VW rabbit with 115K miles, disappointing. If the car was close to me and I could see it in person, the comments above would make me far less concerned regarding the mileage, but to me if someone doesn’t take care of the interior it’s a huge turnoff and warning sign. So while I have purchased several cars site unseen, short of receiving the car for a box of coconuts I will likely pass. Thanks again, I always appreciate the input!
It's not the miles, it is the wear minus the maintenance.
I think prioritizing a nice interior is a good way to go about shopping.
Mechanicals can be unbolted and replacement bolted in.
Paint can be sanded down and sprayed again.
The interior - you replace a part of it and the sun fade of the rest doesn't match.
Not to mention, not all interior trim peices remain availible for replacement.
One thing you may know already, watch out for sanded and painted interior bits, if the texture goes away somewhere you have no idea if it is a quick spray job for photos that lacked proper prep compared to a carring craftsperson that did it to last.
The dealership (that has a great reputation) sent me interior cabin photos which show quite a bit of wear, a great deal more than in my 09 VW rabbit with 115K miles, disappointing. If the car was close to me and I could see it in person, the comments above would make me far less concerned regarding the mileage, but to me if someone doesn’t take care of the interior it’s a huge turnoff and warning sign. So while I have purchased several cars site unseen, short of receiving the car for a box of coconuts I will likely pass. Thanks again, I always appreciate the input!
You answered your question....There are enough XKs out there with fair to low mileage. Why risk it on a high mileage car regardless of price? Good luck and let us know how you make out with your search.
As an FYI, attached are some interior pics of a car I looked at yesterday, 49K miles (if it was to be believed); the interior smell was appalling, the headliner was pealing from the hatch forward and all the internal pieces were as you can see. The exterior was pristine, totally incongruent with the interior. The interior pics of the 100k mile car were a bit better, though not by much, similar fading and flaking.
For perspective, my idea was to upgrade and replace my 115K mile well maintained VW Rabbit with a higher mileage and equally maintained XK to serve as my daily driver (I work from home, so there’s no commute). I have 2 ‘weekend drivers’; a recently purchased 69 XKE FHC and Nissan Figaro. As an FYI, I sold my 16’ F-Type last week - just wasn’t for me.
I’ll keep searching locally to see if a good fit comes along, otherwise, the trustworthy VW keeps chugging along.
As always, opinions and input are much appreciated!
SDD will show the runout on the tensioners and whether or not they are still within spec. At 96K miles mine are still smack dab in the middle of the normal range, so I'm not concerned about the tensioners at this point.
Interesting, but I prefer an owner who like you recognized the issue and would've addressed it. BTW, is that flaking common, I saw it both second gen cars I looked at, the one with 49K miles, the other with 100k miles? I’ve looked at few first gen cars circa 2007-2008, and I don't see the same issue. Curious.
Last edited by Smonop; Jun 29, 2020 at 04:05 PM.
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All my interior buttons and switches are in perfect shape other than the texture on the volume 'wheel' on the steering wheel, which is worn somewhat smoother than the other three 'mouse wheel' type buttons/switches.
I have 96K on mine right now and it's running fine. I bought it at 75K. I had to work out some kinks.
Previously I had a 2003 XK8 that I drove to about 130K with no major issues. I would have gladly driven it to 200K but I had to sell because of financial issues. The main concern would be the timing chain tensioners. They are a known issue on the 5.0 liter engines. Jaguar upgraded the tensioners at some point, but I'm not sure when that was. SDD will show the runout on the tensioners and whether or not they are still within spec. At 96K miles mine are still smack dab in the middle of the normal range, so I'm not concerned about the tensioners at this point.
Where can I find the chain tensioner runout button in SDD?
Thanks
The most important thing is to buy a car that was loved. Loved means maintained religiously, both mechanically and cosmetically. The sticky buttons ala Ferrari/Maserati should have been repaired or replaced, it's not that awful much money to just replace with used parts (careful shopping should get steering wheel, climate and screen surround, seat switches and such should be 1500 or less used).
Serviced at a dealer does not matter very much unless you buy in warranty. An independent shop or DIY maintained car with good records can actually be the better car. Did the person replace parts and fluids preventatively and proactively or just visit the dealer when it broke? Did they do the "while you're there" parts or just the minimum recommended repair?
Check the records, check the car, evaluate the seller, and go with your gut. If any aspect feels off, pass. None of these cars are really rare, and there will be another deal.