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Old 02-12-2019, 01:32 PM
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The new Velar just got the 5.0 engine, which means that engine without any changes is still in production a decade later. It also means Jaguar is obligated by US law to offer it and accompanying accessories for X number of additional years (perhaps someone from the automotive world can tell us what that number is)

Secondly it also means that this engine is a work of art. Its required no additional modifications in the decade in production. Specifically there has been no concern to address.

These are the days it makes you proud to own a Jaguar.
Virtually every manufacturer out there from Audi to Toyota has made significant changes to the engines, to address problems.

Designed and manufactured entirely in the United Kingdom.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/article...ion-announced/
 

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Sounds like at has to be at least 150K

When does JLR move to the BMW V8 then?
 

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Sounds like at has to be at least 150K

When does JLR move to the BMW V8 then?
When they do go to that in the Range Rover, I will call it the Supra of SUVs.
 
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When does JLR move to the BMW V8 then?
When they make us sing the German National Anthem.
But GREAT example.
Look at how many massive revisions its had since 2008.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N63

Please also look at the recalls on the same page.
'Recall relating to issues with timing chain stretch, fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, low pressure fuel sensor and revising the oil service interval'
 
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Excuse my ignorance. This is the same AJ-V8 GEN III in the XK, XF, XJ and F-Type? Unmodified since 2010?? School me.

Good news indeed.
 
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Excuse my ignorance. This is the same AJ-V8 GEN III in the XK, XF, XJ and F-Type? Unmodified since 2010?? School me.

Good news indeed.
Yes!

Designed by and built by Jaguar.

Jaguar was historically only an engine manufacturer dependent on external suppliers for the body.

 
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As I recall, replacement parts stock are required for10 years but it has been years so the requirement may be different now.
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
When they make us sing the German National Anthem.
But GREAT example.
Deutschlandlied could be sooner than you think... Aren't the Royals of German decent?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ar-land-rover/

 
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Originally Posted by 80sRule
When they do go to that in the Range Rover, I will call it the Supra of SUVs.
The already did that before it was the Jaguar engine. It would be reverting in a way. I had it in my Range Rover (would've done "RR" but Rolls has had BMW engines going back almost 30 years). That engine heated quicker than any V8 I have ever owned. If there would ever be a cooling issue; good luck to you. Great for heating up the inside in below freezing temps. Range Rover was very impressive in inside heating and cooling.
 
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We should show some gratitude towards Jaguar in this case....

When was the last time you bought something a decade ago, and it still just as current, just as trailblazing and used in the best of the best today?
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
We should show some gratitude towards Jaguar in this case....

When was the last time you bought something a decade ago, and it still just as current, just as trailblazing and used in the best of the best today?
Agree.

The Chevy small block comes to mind to answer your question. Hopefully in 20 years when I still have my XK, I can go to any junkyard to find a plethora of AJ-V8 parts
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Deutschlandlied could be sooner than you think... Aren't the Royals of German decent?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ar-land-rover/
I bet a penny to a pound it's just a rumor.
Maybe even a "Germany Calling" strategy to get Ford to offer favorable terms on the lease renewal in Bridgend.

Just a pedestrians observation. Why would Jaguar go across tax and employment boundaries to get an inferior engine to the one made by the champions of V8 (Ford) right in their own town, whom they have had a very long established supply chain with?
Also they dont compete with Ford- in the V8 application. BMW is categorically a competitor in every application Jaguar and BMW install V8s in.
 
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Moses,
This was more than a rumour that never happened.


 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
T...Its required no additional modifications in the decade in production. Specifically there has been no concern to address.
There have been a number of concerns, JLR has simply decided to ignore them all.

Lack of an oil dipstick, lack of gauges such as oil pressure & oil temperature, low oil warning in real-time, low coolant warning in real-time, premature water pump failure, a lack of baffles in the oil pan to prevent oil starvation under heavy G-Forces, timing chain/tensioner issues such as the ones you have espoused on other threads in regards to DI engines, etc.

 
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dependent on external suppliers for the body.
Sounds like my ex-wife.
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
When does JLR move to the BMW V8 then?
Not until after Brexit completely plays out.

 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Moses,
This was more than a rumour that never happened.


Sure wish it did. Behar had an eye for design; management not so much.
 
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Originally Posted by sparky fuze
There have been a number of concerns, JLR has simply decided to ignore them all.

Lack of an oil dipstick, lack of gauges such as oil pressure & oil temperature, low oil warning in real-time, low coolant warning in real-time, premature water pump failure, a lack of baffles in the oil pan to prevent oil starvation under heavy G-Forces, timing chain/tensioner issues such as the ones you have espoused on other threads in regards to DI engines, etc.
They have satisfactorily addressed timing chain concerns. In fact there is a lawsuit that claims Jaguar addressed the concerns without telling former owners. Results of the lawsuit will tell.

Its not an engine designed by god or nature mate. It does however seem vastly better designed than the ones that claim to be.

Look at that revision of oil chance intervals on the BMW, you know what that was, same as diesel fraud, they got a competitive advantage by claiming free maintenance- which hilariously was only required once every 2 years.
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Sure wish it did. Behar had an eye for design; management not so much.
Yeah a decade later it still blows away anything practical on the road.
In fact, slightly stretch that to make sure its a 4 seater and you've the next XK.
 
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