Advice needed on purchasing 2007 XK
#22
+1 on Cee Jay's comments on Lexus reliability. But my wife's MDX has been exceptionally reliable.
As the former owner of a brand new 2007 LS460 with almost every option, I learned the hard way about their "Relentlessness Pursuit of Perfection." I was conned by their propaganda. My 2007 was recalled for defective aluminum fuel rails and 32 defective engine valves, and there were TSBs on wind noise, dashboard rattles, and the main wiring harness just to name a few of the defects. As in the old Packard ads, "Ask the man who owns one. " I learned my lesson. Fool me once. Never again. And all this happened with less than 40K miles. The relentlessly pursuit of my patience.
On the positive side, I got to drive almost every model of Lexus loaner cars.
As the former owner of a brand new 2007 LS460 with almost every option, I learned the hard way about their "Relentlessness Pursuit of Perfection." I was conned by their propaganda. My 2007 was recalled for defective aluminum fuel rails and 32 defective engine valves, and there were TSBs on wind noise, dashboard rattles, and the main wiring harness just to name a few of the defects. As in the old Packard ads, "Ask the man who owns one. " I learned my lesson. Fool me once. Never again. And all this happened with less than 40K miles. The relentlessly pursuit of my patience.
On the positive side, I got to drive almost every model of Lexus loaner cars.
#23
You are talking about a Lexus.
This 2007 KK had 2 recalls and this car does not have any outstanding ones. The seller listed his jaguar for $30k but got interested in my Nissan 370Z.. He still wanted me to come up with a couple of grand untill I showed him the Blue Book and Carfax values that showed me car as more expensive than his 2007. So, now, he is mulling over it.
This 2007 KK had 2 recalls and this car does not have any outstanding ones. The seller listed his jaguar for $30k but got interested in my Nissan 370Z.. He still wanted me to come up with a couple of grand untill I showed him the Blue Book and Carfax values that showed me car as more expensive than his 2007. So, now, he is mulling over it.
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I just read on another thread that "Water pump, Front & Rear Upper Control Arms, Toe Links, Sway bar link ends, etc. Bill ended up being just shy of $7K. I linked the bill below. Are these common issues for these cars @ 25K miles? Are these repairs something I should be concerned about? Any advice would be much appreciated, " and the response was that yes, they all need to be fixed due to poor design and such.
The above has me worried. I dont want to trade my car and then end up paying for all those within a year.
The above has me worried. I dont want to trade my car and then end up paying for all those within a year.
Whar we are trying to tell you, from experience (and I have owned 32 Jaguars - some of them for as long as 12 years) is that the cars, especially the XK under consideration, are very reliable (assuming proper maintenance)... yes, the XK is/was an expensive car -but it is not unreliable (you seem to assume that it is). At the other end of the Jaguar price spectrum was the AWD X-Type, of which we have owned 3 - we have 2 at present in long-term ownership, used daily. My wife's is a manual shift model, driven daily for every sort of use, outside 24 hours a day, for now 15 years, ...the sum total of repairs? An oxygen sensor, a nylon gear on one of the seat motors, and most recently, the water pump...three repairs, all minor, in 15 years. So much for the "Jaguars are unreliable" myth. But as with every and any car, the service history and general condition are everything. A Bentley, badly maintained, will also be unreliable...
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#27
Zahmed, I am your age and purchased my 2007 XKR as a retirement present when I retired three years ago. So far, the only major problem was the back glass coming loose from the convertible top. I do work on it myself and replaced the front brake pads. (I don't consider brake pads to be major work) For what it's worth, $30K is way over priced for a '07 XK, even an XKR. Your 370 may be worth that much but not the XK.
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#29
Dont do an even trade. Your Nissan is a racerboy car and the Jag is not. I have a 2007 with over 100k miles and the only thing that has pissed me off is the price of a new alternator. $800 for a Denso part. I recently replaced 2 Remanned Bosch models because the bearings went out on them. So I had no choice but to get a factory replacement. Bushings go out. Other than that theyre not a pain. If youre in your 70s and worried about reliability, time to stop worrying and start living smart. An XK is a smart buy when done right. People will always think youre paying too much, or making too much. The 370 is cool and Id drive one, but nah... its just not special
#30
Actually, my 370Z is around $20k and thye guy, while having posted his car for $30k, is NOW (15 minutes ago) asking $2000 plus my car for his. So, he is basically pricing it at about $22-23000. While there are some available for that price, they have more miles on them. Also, tey are not anywhere near 300 miles from me. I think I will do it. I should have the car by Monday.
A quick question. Do you do the oil changes and regular maintenance at a Jaguar dealer or at other local places?
A quick question. Do you do the oil changes and regular maintenance at a Jaguar dealer or at other local places?
#31
Good move. Go for a 2 hr drive with the Jag before you buy. Give him $40, a six pack and go driving, just to test everything out. Stay away from dealers, and get yourself in touch with a good local shop. Get your oil and filter from NAPA and drop everything off. Its not as special as it looks. Standard drivetrain and sexy sheet metal are what make it special though.
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I am now retired (age 70), have never had Jaguar or a Maserati (there is one with a rebuilt tittle but so beautiful with awesome interior, a Maserati Granturismo) and a part of me wants to drive these cars, sort of like a bucket list. However, I hate the idea of having a car in the shop for days/weeks on end while parts are ordered or having unexpected issues. Maybe I am stereotyping.
For the past 20+ years, I have had mostly sports coupes that were new (the Nissan 370z, the Mazda Miata, the Honda S2000) which never gave me any trouble. Just oil changes. These cars never had trouble before they hit 70,000 miles or more. Now, I am told to expect issues with a car with just 28k miles, that the expenses will be high.
While I want the exclusivity of the cars, I dont want to pay a heavy price with parts needing to be replaced in a car with just 28k miles.
I apologize if I am offending folks here. Its not my intention. I got on the forum to seek reassurance for my doubts. Thanks for being honest.
For the past 20+ years, I have had mostly sports coupes that were new (the Nissan 370z, the Mazda Miata, the Honda S2000) which never gave me any trouble. Just oil changes. These cars never had trouble before they hit 70,000 miles or more. Now, I am told to expect issues with a car with just 28k miles, that the expenses will be high.
While I want the exclusivity of the cars, I dont want to pay a heavy price with parts needing to be replaced in a car with just 28k miles.
I apologize if I am offending folks here. Its not my intention. I got on the forum to seek reassurance for my doubts. Thanks for being honest.
Recognizing you are retired, you are not able to DIY repairs, and therefore have to rely upon dealer service - if you are in a position where you can drop $5K for an unexpected repair without having to eat cat food for the next six months, then go for it.
Maybe you don't have sufficient drama and problems in your life right now - then the acquisition of the XK might be good for you.
You are used to owning relatively new cars that don't cause problems. Further it seems that you only own one car at a time. If that is correct then have a plan for the times when the XK is in the garage for an extended period.
You may be lucky and find that the XK has been perfectly maintained and has no outstanding issues that need repair. However go into the transaction with your eyes open and perform the necessary due diligence so you have an accurate picture of the XK's condition.
I'd rather paint a somewhat bleak picture and have you pleasantly surprised with your XK ownership - vs. telling you how wonderful the car is and then have you say "... no one told me how many issues the XK might have." Just scan this forum to see the variety of issues that come up and the solutions required.
Good luck with your decision and your purchase.
#35
So, latest update. I am to drive down to another own to get the trade done. I am to do it on Monday. HOWEVER, the same town has another car available at a dealer, a 2012 coupe with 40k miles. It would probably cost me another $5k. Should I check it out? A 2007 KK with 28k miles versus a 2012 KK with 40K, is $5k a reasonable amount to pay? How much more is reasonable to get the 2012? Was there a whole lot of differences between the two?
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So, latest update. I am to drive down to another own to get the trade done. I am to do it on Monday. HOWEVER, the same town has another car available at a dealer, a 2012 coupe with 40k miles. It would probably cost me another $5k. Should I check it out? A 2007 KK with 28k miles versus a 2012 KK with 40K, is $5k a reasonable amount to pay? How much more is reasonable to get the 2012? Was there a whole lot of differences between the two?
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Car Fax for 2012 is at https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=CDM_U
The car fax for the 2007 is ......https://www.carfax.com/showroom/#/re...DA43BX75B05875
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Does either car ‘speak to you’? Push all the right buttons?
#39
Well obviously, the 2012 looks great. Moreover, in the 5 year difference in age, certainly should have a lot of improvements but then the car fax shows a lot of work for the 2012. I dont know anything about Jaguars but perhaps the 2012 is when they changed the car and in its first year, it could have issues.
Given that I have never had a Jaguar, I would be thrilled being in either but reliability is a factor. I am hoping more people will see the car fax on both and comment.
Given that I have never had a Jaguar, I would be thrilled being in either but reliability is a factor. I am hoping more people will see the car fax on both and comment.
#40
When Jag made the 2007. It was actually made to be reliable. But then they got fancy with it and decided to engineer a couple of weaknesess into it, just to give it that old jag feeling again. Just kidding, but the problem I see with 5.0 cars is the lack of a dipstick, and the waterpump design. Different animal. The bite is also different😁