Backup Camera Retrofit: Pre-2012 XK Models
#62
04-28-2015, 05:42 AM
#65
06-01-2015, 04:10 PM
Veteran Member
perhaps an even easier solution?
Guys, I believe there is a much better way. A way that makes current backup monitors totally redundant and old fashioned.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
#66
06-01-2015, 04:33 PM
Veteran Member
Guys, I believe there is a much better way. A way that makes current backup monitors totally redundant and old fashioned.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
#67
06-01-2015, 11:44 PM
Guys, I believe there is a much better way. A way that makes current backup monitors totally redundant and old fashioned.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
A way that solves several other bigger problems on the XK.
Lets look at the situation holistically- which is the British way. The screen doesnt have good resolution, nor contrast, meaning low-light images will not look good, forward view is a bigger problem than rear, owing to the long nose. In the interest of ergonomics and mainstream acceptance, many essential gauges were omitted, such as temperature.
You can have a forward camera, rear camera, and full spectrum of gauges and make this the spy hunter car it was intended to be. here is how, the ashtray on the 2010 up XK/XKR perfectly fits a Samsung Galaxy 6/5/4/2. It lays flat securely even through hard cornering. You can buy a stand so that you have more vertical view of it, however, its no more trouble to look down at a screen when in a tight blind spot than it is to try and peer over the back window. Now for the cameras, you can buy wifi cameras or add a $40 wifi module to a regular camera. This will allow you to get video of the front or the back on your phone screen, which has a much better viewing angle and resolution.
Pessimists will point out that its not automatic and there are other inconveniences. However, please consider that a car like an XKR makes certain assumptions; that you are a very competent driver, one that can back a car up just with side view mirrors. Or as the English would say, Jaguar's top cat is not a privilege for those who have just mastered driving, rather those firmly in command of it. So a few seconds it takes for the extra steps in rare instances should not be a bother.
the vehicle information that one gets from adding odb2 adapter to the same screen is indispensable to the same type of driver. then there is the ability to use it as a music storage, and hands-free phone via cars bluetooth.
p.s. the new Xaiomi mi4i phone also fits and it purportedly has a screen that can be viewed in direct sunlight.
Oh, by the way, it does dock in the ash tray space. That works well.
#68
06-02-2015, 09:53 AM
Veteran Member
So the problem then becomes -- and I'm not nay-saying your idea here, just sharing my experience -- that I've got five too many things going on on my phone already. It controls my music. It is the interface for my built-in radar detector. It tends to ring or receive a text just when I'm trying to do anything important. It's just not as convenient as it makes itself out to be.
Oh, by the way, it does dock in the ash tray space. That works well.
Oh, by the way, it does dock in the ash tray space. That works well.
The British design school of thought is ' opt for something based on what you will get out of it, be damned the downsides' that's why we use glove soft leathers and the Deutschlanders have historically used utilitarian hard plastic like leather that never gave a moments joy, but lasted a thousand years.
#70
09-03-2015, 11:17 PM
Veteran Member
Thats why I suggest just getting a dedicated unit for the Jag. You dont have to use any of the other functions. Think of it just as buying it just for a screen, its the only screen that will fit in your car without cutting anything, and it has higher resolution than any other screen you can buy, at any price. The main reason however is that it has wifi built in, and a damn good one. Did i mention its much brighter than anything else you can buy. You can get a unlocked one for less than a $100 on ebay.
The British design school of thought is ' opt for something based on what you will get out of it, be damned the downsides' that's why we use glove soft leathers and the Deutschlanders have historically used utilitarian hard plastic like leather that never gave a moments joy, but lasted a thousand years.
The British design school of thought is ' opt for something based on what you will get out of it, be damned the downsides' that's why we use glove soft leathers and the Deutschlanders have historically used utilitarian hard plastic like leather that never gave a moments joy, but lasted a thousand years.
Personally though I've never really thought that the XK needs a reverse camera. You cant do without them in the XF which has a much higher boot, but I see plenty out of the back of the XKR because it is lower, and in any event it makes such a rumble everyone scatters.
#71
09-05-2015, 03:24 AM
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#72
09-21-2015, 01:08 PM
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Alright Mates here is how you turn your car into a Bond car.
I realized that my earlier suggestion may have been a little too cumbersome for most, this anyone can do.
Garmin sells WIRELESS backup cameras- this manufacturer only puts out good products that are reliable and easy to use. Better yet, they supply a good way of viewing the image; their GPS devices, which have very high brightness and great resolution (much like the cell phone suggestion earlier). But it gets even better- you can use 4 cameras simultaneously. Again the only real problem I have had with the XKR is the low and long nose running into curbs. Now you can have front vision and rear.
The hookup is easy, just wire it to the reverse light power, or parking lights. The gps screen may not fit in the ashtray as a cell phone does, however, go to an upholstery shop and have them make you a little enclosure in leather (matching your car) that will allow the screen to nest in the ashtray compartment.
I realized that my earlier suggestion may have been a little too cumbersome for most, this anyone can do.
Garmin sells WIRELESS backup cameras- this manufacturer only puts out good products that are reliable and easy to use. Better yet, they supply a good way of viewing the image; their GPS devices, which have very high brightness and great resolution (much like the cell phone suggestion earlier). But it gets even better- you can use 4 cameras simultaneously. Again the only real problem I have had with the XKR is the low and long nose running into curbs. Now you can have front vision and rear.
The hookup is easy, just wire it to the reverse light power, or parking lights. The gps screen may not fit in the ashtray as a cell phone does, however, go to an upholstery shop and have them make you a little enclosure in leather (matching your car) that will allow the screen to nest in the ashtray compartment.
Last edited by Queen and Country; 09-21-2015 at 01:10 PM. Reason: spelling errors
#73
09-21-2015, 02:44 PM
Alright Mates here is how you turn your car into a Bond car.
I realized that my earlier suggestion may have been a little too cumbersome for most, this anyone can do.
Garmin sells WIRELESS backup cameras- this manufacturer only puts out good products that are reliable and easy to use. Better yet, they supply a good way of viewing the image; their GPS devices, which have very high brightness and great resolution (much like the cell phone suggestion earlier). But it gets even better- you can use 4 cameras simultaneously. Again the only real problem I have had with the XKR is the low and long nose running into curbs. Now you can have front vision and rear.
The hookup is easy, just wire it to the reverse light power, or parking lights. The gps screen may not fit in the ashtray as a cell phone does, however, go to an upholstery shop and have them make you a little enclosure in leather (matching your car) that will allow the screen to nest in the ashtray compartment.
I realized that my earlier suggestion may have been a little too cumbersome for most, this anyone can do.
Garmin sells WIRELESS backup cameras- this manufacturer only puts out good products that are reliable and easy to use. Better yet, they supply a good way of viewing the image; their GPS devices, which have very high brightness and great resolution (much like the cell phone suggestion earlier). But it gets even better- you can use 4 cameras simultaneously. Again the only real problem I have had with the XKR is the low and long nose running into curbs. Now you can have front vision and rear.
The hookup is easy, just wire it to the reverse light power, or parking lights. The gps screen may not fit in the ashtray as a cell phone does, however, go to an upholstery shop and have them make you a little enclosure in leather (matching your car) that will allow the screen to nest in the ashtray compartment.
#74
09-22-2015, 05:49 AM
#75
09-22-2015, 10:35 AM
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I don't want to keep adding and adding things stuck all over the inside of my car. First off, why a Garmin? Seriously, the stock Sat Nav really isn't all that horrible if you Learn How To Use It! It is WAY better than the Sat Nav in the wife's Lexus, and since it's integrated into the instruments between the speedo and tach, you won't even have to look at the touch screen, as it displays lane-and-turn info and direction.
Way too many people say it is a horrible system, but it is really quite easy to use and very accurate and intuitive.
So, since any Garmin or TomTom add-on is superfluous and ridiculous, this camera idea is no good. Of course, some people probably like stuff stuck all over their dash, but I'm not one of those. So, carry on.
Way too many people say it is a horrible system, but it is really quite easy to use and very accurate and intuitive.
So, since any Garmin or TomTom add-on is superfluous and ridiculous, this camera idea is no good. Of course, some people probably like stuff stuck all over their dash, but I'm not one of those. So, carry on.
#77
09-23-2015, 12:14 AM
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#78
09-23-2015, 01:29 AM
#80
09-23-2015, 09:32 AM
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I don't want to keep adding and adding things stuck all over the inside of my car. First off, why a Garmin? Seriously, the stock Sat Nav really isn't all that horrible if you Learn How To Use It! It is WAY better than the Sat Nav in the wife's Lexus, and since it's integrated into the instruments between the speedo and tach, you won't even have to look at the touch screen, as it displays lane-and-turn info and direction.
Way too many people say it is a horrible system, but it is really quite easy to use and very accurate and intuitive.
So, since any Garmin or TomTom add-on is superfluous and ridiculous, this camera idea is no good. Of course, some people probably like stuff stuck all over their dash, but I'm not one of those. So, carry on.
Way too many people say it is a horrible system, but it is really quite easy to use and very accurate and intuitive.
So, since any Garmin or TomTom add-on is superfluous and ridiculous, this camera idea is no good. Of course, some people probably like stuff stuck all over their dash, but I'm not one of those. So, carry on.