Hi folks!
In INDIA the regular 91 ron as well as 95 ron petrol comes with 10 percent ETHANOL BLENDING .
Now the govt is pushing towards 20 percent blending , E20 .
The newer cars are offering this E20 compliance post apr 2023.
I guess this will certainly ruin our cars if we use this E20 in our XKR's
Just praying that this remains AN OPTION for cheaper fuel ,for those whose cars are E20 compliant .
From what I surmise , Ethanol blending started in early 2000's .So technically the cars and engines post that time must be at least 10 percent ethanol compliant.
How does the XKR fare with E10 blended fuel ?
Thanks!

 

JLR specify that the maximum ethanol content for the AJ133 (5.0 V8) as in your car is 10% and the minimum RON is 95, so that is perfectly OK.
20% ethanol may or may not cause problems, hard to tell, but JLR have always been very conservative with things like this so my bet is it will be OK.

 

I have used all variants of E10 petrol across Europe in my 1997 X100 and nothing has ever had any effect on its smooth running. If my X100 can run E10 without problems my betting is that the newer engines in the X150 will be able to run E20 without problems.

Richard

 

"Those who Say" say that more alcohol lowers the cost of petrol, but it doesn't. It raises the PROFIT to the oil companies. E-Fuel is a sham.

 

This is the response of TOYOTA INDIA regarding E20 and E10 fuels and their vehicle compatibility.
Man I think there's more to it .

 

Of course, that's the standard manufacturers get-out clause. If I didn't know more about cars than the manufacturer, I would have thrown in the towel decades ago. 😉

Richard

 

Right now, I'm running my XKR on Shell V-Power (mad, I know), which is E5 and 99 octane. I'm planning to run like this for a few months, get a good feel for how the car runs and how much fuel it uses, then try standard E10 95 for a while and compare.

I noticed that SNG Barratt have been running one of their E-Types on E-fuel...

 

Hello @pedoc
There's no risks. In France where we pay 8,18$/gal (675roupies/gal or 178,5roupies/liter)for ron98 a LOT of people are adding up to 30/40% of ethanol E85 in the 95ron they fill the car with.
And it's perfectly fine according to their feedback.
Then there's more and more people who are having a reprogrammation of their engine done for E85. (E85 being half the price of ron98).Most Porsche or High power consumer are getting this way as really, fuel has turn way too expensive here.
From what I've read the only trouble might be that the ethanol is corrosive to the supercharger rotor coating. Hence having it refinished would be better...
But not sure about this as the car is quite rare.

To sum up, i guess there's not any danger for your car as it is now.

 

You say so because you are from a (still) free and (quite) democratic country..
Us, living in semi bolchevik countries, are paying 60% of taxes on every liter of fuel..
Over here the one getting richer is the state...
Using Ethanol here divides the bill by half!
For my XKR the filling costs 160$ these days.
with E85 it would be 79$..(hence I'll look at an E85 conversion when back in town in september...)

 

Isn't there an ethanol "neutraliser" additive that negates the "benefits" that ethanol provides? (Doing research now...).

 

Yes, but only before you put it in the vehicle. Add the same amount of water (yes) to the fuel as the E rating... as in E10 you put one gallon of water with every ten gallons of fuel. THEN mix it thoroughly and let it sit for several hours. THEN drain out the BOTTOM two gallons of liquid, which will be hydrogenated alcohol. You will then have nine gallons of ethanol free petrol/gasoline/whatever.
A lot easier to just source ethanol free.

 

Unless you live near a major city like Chicago, then you probably won’t find it within 100 miles.
(Had to take a road trip to fill a 5 gallon can, to use with my generator.)

 

The petrol which remains will be a lower octane rating than the original E10 by a few points. Whether this adversely affects the running of the engine depends upon the obvious factors. An octane enhancer could be added if necessary.

The petrol will probably also contain more water than the the original which might accelerate any corrosion within the car's fuel system. Once again, any dissolved water can be removed by the addition of a suitable desiccant followed by filtering.

Your final statement is wholly appropriate.

Richard

 

In fact there are Ethanol additive products you add when you fill the tank.
They reduce corrosion risks and lubricates hoses and joints.( as ethanol being a solvant, it dries such things).

 

E0 gas stations can be found here:

https://www.pure-gas.org

 

Yup. The closest ones to me, and still a bit of a drive, are small airports. You can’t pump into a car, only into marked gas cans.
Another thing to search for is ‘race gas’ (check to verify it is E0). Found one close to one of those airports, and you can pump into a car, at about 2x the price of normal premium gas.

 

I been running e30 for the about 4 years now and no issues I have an ethanol sensor and it reads the ethanol content in my phone through Bluetooth I'm going to upgrade my low side fuel pump and go for e50 because I'm seeing 1300-1500 psi under acceleration so is running out of fuel my car does make around 800hp so if your car is stock then I'm pretty sure you can run higher e85 content without needing a fuel pump

 

I'm in a podunk suburb area, and there are three "clear" gas places within three miles. One of them has "high" octane E-Free. It's like $5 per gallon right now, which is only a bit more than E10 High Octane.

 

Earlier this spring, I replaced the carb on my small 30 year old generator (hadn’t been run in probably 25), and decided not to get it clogged up with ethanol gas, so found that ‘race gas’ place (E0, 100 octane) some distance away, bought 5 gallons at $9 per gallon (glad I wasn’t filling the car). Don’t know what the airport near there price was, just felt kind of weird to go into an airport to buy 5 gallons of no-name gas.

 

Hearing real world scenario like yours , does instill confidence.
Would love to get some details of the fuel pump upgrade and the ETHANOL SENSOR man.
Thanks Ricky5.0s/c!