XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

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Old May 18, 2022 | 05:39 PM
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I wonder if the XKR-S GT used this subframe
 
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Old May 19, 2022 | 07:19 PM
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Would have to get someone with a parts catalogue for xkr-s gt to cross reference however I do recall Cambo stating the xkr-s gt and f type share the same rear cradle however that's no good for us as both are steel .
 
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Old May 20, 2022 | 03:23 AM
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Well, should balance out better anyway. Much closer to 50/50 front vs rear
 
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Old May 20, 2022 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Panthro
Well, should balance out better anyway. Much closer to 50/50 front vs rear
Spot on and reduce some of that nasty oversteer we tend to get with these vehicles
 
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Old May 21, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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hmmm… not sure if it qualifies as nasty…
 
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Old May 23, 2022 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
Spot on and reduce some of that nasty oversteer we tend to get with these vehicles
I understand "oversteer" to be where the car responds with a tighter circle or smaller turning radius than the driver input intends.
A typical cause of oversteer might be a loss of traction on the rear with resultant sideways slip that points the car toward the center of the turn/circle.
A reduction of frontmost mass would not seem to correct that situation.

Reduced overall mass: lighter weight, reduced stopping distance, improved fuel economy, faster acceleration. That's good enough for me.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 06:49 AM
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Bump for updates...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill400
I understand "oversteer" to be where the car responds with a tighter circle or smaller turning radius than the driver input intends.
A typical cause of oversteer might be a loss of traction on the rear with resultant sideways slip that points the car toward the center of the turn/circle.
A reduction of frontmost mass would not seem to correct that situation.

Reduced overall mass: lighter weight, reduced stopping distance, improved fuel economy, faster acceleration. That's good enough for me.
Another armchair expert that brings absolutely nothing to this thread
 
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Old Jun 12, 2022 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
Another armchair expert that brings absolutely nothing to this thread
Sorry that I hurt your feelings Steve.
You invested a lot of time speculating that the aluminum F-Type subframe would bolt onto your XK. You took measurements, made a sketch and shared.
So, maybe you thought it unkind of me to question your comment about front-end weight reduction affecting "oversteer".
If so, I apologize. No harm meant.
However, inquiring minds and readers of your thread want to know: would you be so kind as to explain your definition of "oversteer" and how the proposed frontmost weight reduction would affect vehicle dynamics, specifically oversteer?

PS: I do agree that an overall/general weight reduction is a good thing.

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Old Jul 24, 2022 | 10:07 AM
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Any updates on this?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 10:57 AM
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Bumpity-bump-bump...for updates (if any)
 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 10:24 PM
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Bumpity-bump-bump...for updates (if any)
Panthro just waiting for one to turn up for a good price on eBay not looking to dump thousands into a frame
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
Panthro just waiting for one to turn up for a good price on eBay not looking to dump thousands into a frame
I might be resurrecting a nearly 2 year old thread, but have you had any chance fitting the f type subframe since then? Or has it gone down the priority list of things to do?

I'm in need of a replacement subframe (due to heavy corrosion), and if the f type subframe is a straight swap with no alteration needed (i.e all control arms fitting at the right spots) it might well be the path I will follow.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2023 | 10:10 AM
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I'd be interested as well. Mine is also badly corroded. Why not upgrade while we're there, eh? Besides, XK/XKR parts availability is only going to get worse.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2023 | 11:00 PM
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It'll fit I've done all the measurements and a few of us here are actually running f type steering racks (faster ratio) I've also got f type engine mounts on mine as they were cheaper then xkr variety
 
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 07:55 PM
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Love to see folks doing the complex stuff. The subframe swap is a really interesting fix, particularly for those whose steel frames are rotting (very common in the UK, it seems).

 
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