just be careful buying on ebay motors. You may think that you are protected for loss as ebay advertises in numerous places, but if you look into it further, you will see that this applies ONLY if you pay the purchase price all at once. I figured this out after I put a $1k deposit on the XKR that I bought there. I did not pay the balance until I actually inspected the car, but still, eBay's rule is a little fishy to me. How many people actually pay for the car in one payment?

 

eBay motors is no different than any other sales entity. If you buy a car at a dealership, sign the papers, pay for the car and drive it away, THEN YOU OWN IT.

It's rather naive to even think that you would be able to buy a car either on eBay, through Autotrader.com, Cargurus.com, CarMax.com or any other internet website, take delivery and think that you can return the car for a full refund. That's not the way the auto industry works.

It's solely the responsibility of the purchaser/buyer to complete his due diligence to make sure the vehicle you are buying conforms to YOUR standards as a purchaser.

eBay sellers have the right to "end" an ad/auction if the car is sold locally. There are many independent organizations that a buyer/purchaser can pay to inspect the vehicle before purchasing.

I have seen friends buy great cars via eBay and have seen people buy cars on eBay without checking them out thoroughly and when delivered the vehicle is not what they had thought it would be. The buyer always assumes the risk when buying sight unseen.

As with any item purchased it is the sole responsibility of the buyer/purchaser to make 100% sure that he wants to buy and pay for the vehicle or any other item. Buying a car is not like shopping at Costco or Kohl's where there is a no questions asked return policy.

I bought my 2014 Porsche Cayman 981 from an eBay ad that was listed by Porsche of Tucson. There have been no problems, the car was delivered with 152 miles on the car. It's beautiful and paid far less than what it was listed on eBay. eBay was a great way to find and review the Porsche I was seeking.

I bought my 2009 Jaguar XKR PE with 13,800 miles on the car that was an internet listing. I have had no problems what so ever.

Both purchases were straight deals with good dealerships. I did my due diligence.

I did however buy a 1966 Mustang Convertible as a project car, and when it was delivered it would not start. My fault, I should have had a independent car inspector inspect the car.

So there are good and bad, but just because the vehicle was listed on eBay does not make it an inferior vehicle.

Electronic sales listings of so many different items is the wave of the future, GET USED TO IT.

http://jalopnik.com/5819079/the-ten-...-sold-on-ebay/

 

Richard, I don't see your ranting response really addrssing my comment. My point was and is, that ebay may give some a false sense of security concerning their "buyer protection" warranty, as it is only in force, as I read it, if the buyer pays for the purchase in 1 lump payment. I would expect that most buyers would pay a deposit on a winning bid and make arrangements as I did to inspect the vehicle before making a final payment. Therefore, they would not be able to take advantage of whatever limited "protection" that ebay would seem to offer.

Your comments concerning good and bad deals and whatever "wave of the future" that you are referring to (the future is here and I embrace it!) are irrelevent to my posting, and the caps "GET USED TO IT" seems an unwarranted admonition to my post. I am not disparaging internet sales, just warning folks about a particular clause that I observed on ebay.

 

I bought 3 cars on the internet. Did not inspect any of them. Went with pictures, CarFax, and seller's reputation. All 3 cars were exactly as anticipated. 2 Jag's and 1 Range Rover.

All were on cars.com.

 

One cannot compare e bay to auto trader, cars.com etc. Electronic ads are a good way to advertise your product but one needs to go to the dealership or owner and look at what they may be buying. Autotrader and the like give you the location so you can go there and kick the tires. Sorry I am just old school, there are too many scams going on with private and used dealers this day and age. If its too good to be true, it isn't!!

 

I have also bought used cars from autotrader without seeing them and they were exactly as advertised. I have a 3rd party inspect the car, take pictures, etc. before I buy. It's better than seeing the car yourself, because they are able to detect flaws that 99% of buyers can't.

 

They're also not emotionally motivated.

 

I don't go for "too good to be true" examples. An honest priced car in honest condition is what I want. The car, where people in know would know what I paid for it.

 

same here. I bought my XKR with a 5 minute phone call 2400 miles away. no complaints at all.

i sold a saleen extreme mustang the same way. 5 minute call and boom it was done

 

While I respect those who are willing to buy sight unseen, that's just not something I would do. Does anyone out there have a good experience with an independent inspection service? If so which one did you use?

 

Another 2012 XKR-S listed for sale........$79,500

2012 Jaguar XK-Series XKR-S Coupe For Sale - CarGurus

CarFax on above 2012 Jaguar XKR-S

CARFAX Vehicle History Report for this 2012 JAGUAR XKR S

Dealer location and info:

http://cars.ultimateauto.com/2012-Ja...-32804/4834708

VIN SAJWA4HA5CMB46889
Vehicle Accidents/Service
Year 2012 Engine Type 5.0L V8 DOHC 32V SUPERCHARGED
Make Jaguar Driveline RWD
Model XK-Series Ground Clearance 3.90 in.
Trim Level XKR-S Coupe Front Brake Type Disc
Manufactured In UNITED KINGDOM Rear Brake Type Disc
Body Style COUPE 2-DR Anti-Brake System 4-Wheel ABS
Transmission 6-Speed Automatic
Standard Seating 4
MPG Hwy 22 miles/gallon Optional Seating
MPG City 15 miles/gallon Tires 255/35R20
Wheelbase 108.30 in.
Dealer Invoice $121,349 USD
MSRP $132,000 USD

Let's see how long it takes for this baby to sell.

 

There are a few...

2012 Jaguar XK-Series XKR-S Coupe For Sale - CarGurus

 

WTH Its XKR-S firesale what great deals on a awesome car! My dealer STILL has the 2013 I originally looked at, and won't budge off the 132k sticker...

 

Your dealer is losing money every day it sits there - it may be bringing in other traffic and perhaps he doesn't really want to sell it?

 

Its in the showroom but in the corner.. I offered them 105k for it when I bought my XKR and couldn't do it.. That brand new car is going to be worth 80k soon.

 

Just because the internet allows people to sell things sight unseen does not give sellers free reign to advertise falsely or misrepresent items. Ebay's buyer protection is intended to allay concerns that some buyers might have over making such a large purchase sight unseen, as you say. Without such protection, I doubt many would even consider buying a car on eBay. (What assurances do you even have that the car exists and is in the possession of the seller?)

I can't think of a single thing that I've bought online where I would have no recourse if the item was not as described. If I am shipped an incorrect item on Amazon.com or if it's totally misrepresented, Amazon works with me to get a replacement or refund my money. The same is true with most reputable online retailers.

BTW did you change your pills?

 

I bought the red XKR-S in Chantilly. The dealership does not give me the warm and fuzzy. However, while I was there waiting for a new key to be programmed my financing was revised twice downward and the paperwork redone. As I live in MD I had the car inspected to get it titled here, the front left tire was down to the marker and would not pass. Chantilly has agreed to have me reimbursed for the new tire and installation, so I cannot complain there.
I went in fully prepared and knowing that I was buying in my mind a press release car (driven hard by journalists in California) and then used at the R academy in Las Vegas (again driven hard). I watched the three XKR-S for sale at that time in the DC area and originally wanted the French racing blue one.

The car is used despite me being the first to title it. So I have the remainder of the factory warranty. I was offered CPO for something like $2,300. This would have been just paperwork as the car is already CPO'ed from Jaguar's stand point. So the $2,300 would have bought me an extra 5 years or extra 10,000 mile warranty whatever comes first.

Including taxes I paid $60K less than new, they had a brand new LR4 for $58K in the showroom, that is what I saved in my mind.

I already ordered a Mina exhaust from Chris which should be at my house on Saturday or early next week and will be installed by next Friday.

Yes, the car has signs of usage, which it will get from me too. I drive my weekend cars still 20-30k miles a year. My cars are not polished, stay in the garage and just come out for the cars n coffee meet. The car has not been washed since it has been pretty crummy here since we bought it on the 11th and my wife is driving it almost daily. The car will drive up and down most of the East Coast from NY to Florida.
My family (wife and two kids) used to do weekend trips in a 997 turbo and a Boxster Spyder RS 60 and now we will do it in the XF SC and the XKR-S.

 

Wow! Congrats. I want to see some pics of this XKR-S!

20-30k miles a year? Each? That's more miles my wife and do on all three of our cars combined!

Enjoy!

 

Congrats on the purchase.

Just wondering; did the dealer disclose the exact previous usage details as listed above? From this thread and the dealer ads placed on various websites it was not clear at all that the car was used for testing and driving school (hard use). We speculated at that probability but, how did you find out?

Jaguar employed a lot of XKRs and variations in their driving schools as well as in the JaguarAlive events. I would expect such "unusual" and "hard" usage to be disclosed upon sale.

Albert

 

Schwabe, thanks for posting and providing the extra info on that Chantilly car. The red is just gorgeous, and I'm glad to hear you'll be driving the heck out of it!


Rich