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A shout out to Pep Boys for a quick inexpensive and professional job! I just had my oil changed (Penzoil Syn) the brake fluid flushed and changed and the Coolant system flushed and changed for $305 USD. Dropped off at 1030 picked up at 1:00. There’s no dealer within 60 miles so having this done locally was a big plus! Bought the car Nov 19 in Florida when it was 6/years old and just had the 30k service. Shipped it home to Ontario Ohio in Dec and have put 10K in two years since as our backup Spring Summer Early Fall car and no issues at all. Everything checked out good in visual inspection tires will need replacing this year though. My golf clubs fit in the trunk with just a little finagling with the Driver 3 Wood but they do fit! Put new Battery and smart tender in when purchased and no electrical or mechanical issues to date. The color of this car is absolutely stunning as I constantly get people complimenting not just the gorgeous car but specifically the coler always catches their eye! (Crystal Blue). Getting ready to move full time to Florida instead of just Snowbirding so I’m sure I’ll pit more miles on her for sure after that! Bottom line is so far very reliable and great fun driving this amazing car! Best decision on a fun vehicle I ever made! Still two years and 35K on warranty….paid $2500 for 4 years 45K miles. Probably won’t need it and could have saved my money but on the other hand it does give me piece of mind!
Not to start this debate up once again, but you may not be aware that Jag specifies oil, and its not Penzoil. Call a jag dealer for details. Its just not worth cheaping out on the oil and it -is pretty pricey, like $12/qt the last time I picked some up from a dealer.
Not to start this debate up once again, but you may not be aware that Jag specifies oil, and its not Penzoil. Call a jag dealer for details. Its just not worth cheaping out on the oil and it -is pretty pricey, like $12/qt the last time I picked some up from a dealer.
Yep, they specified the oil brand when that brand agreed to pay Jaguar the most.
They also specified an oil fifteen years ago, and progress being progress, even the crappiest 7-eleven oil now far surpasses the quality of the Best Oil Ever from fifteen years ago.
............. so there's THAT.....
Not to start this debate up once again, but you may not be aware that Jag specifies oil, and its not Penzoil. Call a jag dealer for details. Its just not worth cheaping out on the oil and it -is pretty pricey, like $12/qt the last time I picked some up from a dealer.
Pennzoil is a brand of Shell. Pennzoil (and Shell) synthetic oils are made with Shell’s Gas To Liquids (GTL) technology where natural gas molecules (typically methane, or CH4) are combined to result in longer chain liquid hydrocarbons - typically achieving greater consistency than other synthetic oil processes.
As others have stated, car manufacturers often specify certain brands due to marketing and motorsports tie-ups. Shell and Pennzoil have been exclusively specified by Ferrari for eons - https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/perfo...s/ferrari.html
If I owned a Ferrari (I don’t) I probably wouldn’t hesitate to use Mobil 1 of the appropriate specification. Just as I wouldn’t hesitate to use Pennzoil in my Jaguar.
Disclaimer: I work for Shell, but these views are my own
Last edited by ram_g; Jul 7, 2022 at 09:06 PM.
Reason: Forgot to add disclaimer
For $305, a person can buy the fluids and a MiTvac and coolant vacuum. Wife begs me to change her oil and I make a small fuss. Then I go out to the garage, change her oil in 10 minutes and spend an hour or so sorting my tools. JLR made it simple to suck out the oil and the filter is on top of the car.
For the 4.2 track car I use Castrol and Motul. For the late model Rovers I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum which does meet JLR’s specification and from what I’ve read in respected sources, it’s likely better than OEM for approx $4 per litre. OEM designed filters about $12 and a Mityvac about $120 which can be used over and over again. Takes less than 30 minutes from setup to tear down and only coasts about $40 per change.
Just noticed this thread..The last time I used Pep Boys was to purchase 2 tires for my G35. I was nervous then...and that was for a tire purchase. Glad to hear that things went well for you...Personally, I'd avoid Pep Boys for any car I owned, especially a Jag.
For the 4.2 track car I use Castrol and Motul. For the late model Rovers I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum which does meet JLR’s specification and from what I’ve read in respected sources, it’s likely better than OEM for approx $4 per litre. OEM designed filters about $12 and a Mityvac about $120 which can be used over and over again. Takes less than 30 minutes from setup to tear down and only coasts about $40 per change.
Ain't dipsticks wonderful? Of course, you still have to crawl underneath to spin on a new filter.
Of the three fluids the OP had changed, the only one that requires specific knowledge of Jag quirks is the coolant. They should have vacuum bled it. Though the risk is really low, nice to get all the bubbles out before it's buttoned up.
The other two are no different than any other typical car. Ford comes to mind, for instance. Pretty much anyone can do it.
Oh -- want to see if they're any good? Tell them to do the rest of the fluids: refresh the ZF, renew the differential and replace the PS fluid.... That'd be fun to see.
Last edited by panthera999; Jul 9, 2022 at 07:38 PM.
Additives yes and additionally, base stocks vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. For example Motul use ester base, Pennzoil use full synthetic natural gas derived base, etc. Some bases are even made from plants.
My main fear is some over zealous person to over tighten the drain bolt. Since my car came to me with a full Jag service up to 18,000 miles, Im fairly confident the drain plug has not been tampered with since it left the factory.....and I intend to keep it that way. The day after getting the new wheels I did a small road trip to the airport and was just grinning ear to ear at the perfect blend of luxury and sportiness these cars have. I have a couple of car related projects on the back burner, but oil changes are a breeze.
Pennzoil is a brand of Shell. Pennzoil (and Shell) synthetic oils are made with Shell’s Gas To Liquids (GTL) technology where natural gas molecules (typically methane, or CH4) are combined to result in longer chain liquid hydrocarbons - typically achieving greater consistency than other synthetic oil processes.
As others have stated, car manufacturers often specify certain brands due to marketing and motorsports tie-ups. Shell and Pennzoil have been exclusively specified by Ferrari for eons - https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/perfo...s/ferrari.html
If I owned a Ferrari (I don’t) I probably wouldn’t hesitate to use Mobil 1 of the appropriate specification. Just as I wouldn’t hesitate to use Pennzoil in my Jaguar.
Disclaimer: I work for Shell, but these views are my own
i've just started trying this, stuff, actually! or close to it. the regular "platinum" not "ultra platinum."
oil change was in early march this year, just ticked over 1000 miles and the engine hasn't detonated yet so that's good. it was half a quart down just yesterday morning. ravenol (this one
-- 3x the price, lately) didn't burn like that even back when i had an inconsequential leak: not sure if this is a consequence of the oil weight, or failing to choose "ultra" (didn't know that existed), or one or many of several other factors... but for the price, it appears to be the superior choice. we'll see after the first winter.
also i'm not a "green" nerd but i am invested in this particular family of technological advancements, literally and figuratively. occidental claims they'll actually be able to store CO2 and then sell carbon-derivative products, at profit, without any operating subsidies, without a carbon credits (read: tax) "market", for eventual production of materials such as concrete. been getting positioned now, for when people later realize that "big, evil" oil companies... aren't.