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Old 04-11-2023, 08:18 AM
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I have had no problem getting any part for my more than 50 year old Mk 2 (which I use regularly), and my local Jaguar/Land Rover dealer has no qualms at all about servicing my 21 year old X-Type…so I am not at all concerned about keeping my 2015 F-Type - for all the reasons stated.
What does the local JLR dealer say when you bring in the Mk2 for plugs and an oil change?
 
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Old 04-11-2023, 08:50 AM
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So I am supposed to be lucky, too?
We have an excellent Jag dealership with a long track record almost in my neighborhood, in Mainz.
No sign whatsoever that they would not service X100s or X150s anymore.
 
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Old 04-11-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hans Amstein
So I am supposed to be lucky, too?
We have an excellent Jag dealership with a long track record almost in my neighborhood, in Mainz.
No sign whatsoever that they would not service X100s or X150s anymore.
I reckon ROW has better support than North America.
 
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Old 04-11-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jahummer
Except based on my own experience, already a large number of major model specific parts are NLA both from Jaguar and Land Rover (trim, body, suspension, headlamps, electronics, etc) and this will only continue to expand as they likely no interest in devoting resources to one off pieces from suppliers they may no longer have a relationship with.
As for the Jaguar classic parts programme, I reckon there’s more to it than keeping Jags alive, its intended market’s classic car collectors with truly vintage antique cars…Not trying to be negative, just pragmatic.

Well, the JLR Classic Parts programme covers all the models up to the X100 (that is, up to 2006) and its siblings, the S-Type, X-Type, XJ…as well as the earlier models and no doubt the X150 will be covered before long. It is most definitely not a programme designed only for vintage cars. And yes, they supply suspension, electronics etc.; not every part for every model can be offered but commonly needed parts, yes. A pertinent example: an engine temperature sensor (there are various sensors) for the supercharged 4.2 litre V8 in an XJ (or, for that matter, in an XK)? Yup, available from the Classic Parts programme.

I will be at my dealer today…so I will ask about oil changes and spark plug replacements for my Mk 2!

It seems to me that any dealer that would refuse to service cars more than X years old has made a decision to forego a significant part of potential business income.
 

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Update:

The service advisor at my Jaguar dealer has just confirmed that YES, they would happily service my 1966 Mk 2 . They like to keep their clients happy. In the past 2 years they have done (always properly) servicing on my 2001 XJR (and this was major: replacement of timing chains and tensioners), my 2002 and my 2005 X-Types, and my 2015 F-Type. So there ARE dealers who take the word "service" seriously.

From this:


to this:

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Originally Posted by jahummer
I reckon ROW has better support than North America.
This certainly is the case here in the US.
 
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Originally Posted by sov211
Update:

The service advisor at my Jaguar dealer has just confirmed that YES, they would happily service my 1966 Mk 2 . They like to keep their clients happy. In the past 2 years they have done (always properly) servicing on my 2001 XJR (and this was major: replacement of timing chains and tensioners), my 2002 and my 2005 X-Types, and my 2015 F-Type. So there ARE dealers who take the word "service" seriously.

From this:


to this:

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you have excellent taste...
 
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you have excellent taste...
Thanks, but it helps to have an understanding spouse willing to accept my eccentricities such as the Jaguar obsession.
The Mk 2 has just 27,500 original miles on it . A lot of fun in a 57-year-old-way!
 
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Always liked those MK IIs'. Rear roofline is a beaut - kinda like the old MK IXs'...but I digress...
 
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Our JCCA club was holding monthly "Jags n Java" at 2 local dealers, alternating between new dealer on west side and Penske dealer on east side since last year. January of this year the east side dealer said they will no longer be a combo Jag/LR dealer, chucking all the Jags to the original Scottsdale location. The Scottsdale dealer has a reputation of indifference to older Jags. The west side has kept the Jags, along with buying a Porsche franchise
Is it any wonder that Jags are becoming even more of a niche car? As of 2024, there will be NO Jag sports cars, and NO classic sedans! Just SUV's and EV's. My 92 XJS, 01 XJ8 and 05 XKR are officially dinosaurs of the golden age of Jaguar!
 
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Question: You would even consider buying a Jag SUV when they compare so poorly (no USP whatsoever) with the modern-day Land Rover and Range Rover line uo, from Defender over Discovery to the elegant Velar?

I just don’t get it. In hindsight, the JLR decision not to introduce a successor to our XKs and XKRs was a menetekel.
 
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Originally Posted by xalty
JLR era jags and wallet rovers are the ultimate gravy train of all time. dealerships will keep fixing those POS cars for as long as possible until the new motor supply dries up

lots of first and second owner vehicles with people willing to pay any cost, wallet rover especially.
ok, I will bite.. What is a "wallet rover"?
 
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Old 04-16-2023, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hans Amstein
So I am supposed to be lucky, too?
We have an excellent Jag dealership with a long track record almost in my neighborhood, in Mainz.
No sign whatsoever that they would not service X100s or X150s anymore.
I would go ask them about Jaguar's new business model and tell them what you are reading & hearing from people across the U.S. I suspect most Jaguar dealers have a great long term track record also. I doubt the service department advisors are going to voluntarily tell a XK100/150 owner that they are going to stop servicing older Jags until the day they do.
 
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Originally Posted by bocatrip
This certainly is the case here in the US.
What is ROW?
 
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Originally Posted by pvxkowner
What is ROW?
Rest Of World
 
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Old 04-16-2023, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hans Amstein
Question: You would even consider buying a Jag SUV when they compare so poorly (no USP whatsoever) with the modern-day Land Rover and Range Rover line uo, from Defender over Discovery to the elegant Velar?

I just don’t get it. In hindsight, the JLR decision not to introduce a successor to our XKs and XKRs was a menetekel.
Someone thought Jaguar needed to follow the increasing market sales for midsized SUVs. I had the F pace, E pace and XE as loaners and none drove like or felt like Jags in fact they felt like mass produced vehicles which normally sell for half the price.

Land Rover however, at least with the Ranger Rover, RRS, Defender and Velar have managed to remain true to their heritage of quality,
 
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Some good news at least for hopes of Jaguar staying around in the States. I was in Phoenix, AZ for a few days and there are many iPace Jags decked out with cameras and radars driving around the city. Saw at least a half dozen in just a couple of days. Jaguar is certainly putting in the investment and effort to make the next era of cars; something.
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Some good news at least for hopes of Jaguar staying around in the States. I was in Phoenix, AZ for a few days and there are many iPace Jags decked out with cameras and radars driving around the city. Saw at least a half dozen in just a couple of days. Jaguar is certainly putting in the investment and effort to make the next era of cars; something.
I thought that was just a Waymo thing. I read like five years ago that Waymo made a deal to buy something like 20,000 I-paces and I remember at the time thinking that was an insane amount for an experiment. I wonder how many they really did buy.
 
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I thought that was just a Waymo thing. I read like five years ago that Waymo made a deal to buy something like 20,000 I-paces and I remember at the time thinking that was an insane amount for an experiment. I wonder how many they really did buy.
You could be well right, thanks. I am not sure who was funding or the intent. Just saw more iPaces in 4 days than I've seen in the last 4 years.

Any spy pics out these of the next gen electric Jags will look like?
 
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Another second hand report on Jaguar dealership strategy: Dealership owner via parts manager:
Jaguar offered to buy out US dealerships with target of 50% reduction.
Fewer than 50% took the offer. Convert to LR was said to be an option.
Again, the intent to target a more upscale market was mentioned.

More profit from fewer sales? Reduced volume will force reliance on common parts and vendors more heavily influenced by other makes.
Or is this contraction for the US market? What is the plan for the ROW?
 


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