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Old 03-29-2019, 09:28 PM
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Did this thread die or is there more discussion elsewhere?

Maybe finished project photos?
 
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So I've never messed with catch cans - where would you put them in the XKRs setup? Read through some generic articles about them but haven't found much helpful.
 
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So I've never messed with catch cans - where would you put them in the XKRs setup? Read through some generic articles about them but haven't found much helpful.
Earlier in this thread has numerous posts with specific places to both mount and hook up the cans.
 
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Just had one installed on my Pantera last week at the request of the mechanic who did the restoration.
 
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I was hoping that bigdhenderson might give some insight as to how his project turned out.

It would be especially helpful if he has noticed improvements of any kind as well as finished photos of his work.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Earlier in this thread has numerous posts with specific places to both mount and hook up the cans.
Where? This is the only one I see that mentions where they're looking at plumbing them in, and it's a question...

Originally Posted by bigdhenderson
Anyone know if the full load breather tube needs to be hooked up to the intake? Is this something that could be deleted from being tied-in to the intake tube and just ran through a breathered catch can?
 
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Here's the setup for my 4.2 XKR. I had the breather hose chopped in half when I had the intake elbow out, so now it's easier to connect a line from the PCV breather to the can.

Built a nice bracket and installed it neatly above the RH wheel well. Needed 2 90 degree steel plates, bent one and cut the other in half. And a piece of carbon fiber hockey stick there too.

Only downside to this setup is I have to detach the can to drain it, since there is no clearance to unscrew it.

I'll update when I have the hoses installed. Looking for a clear tube, but can't seem to find 1.


 
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Originally Posted by gkubrak
Here's the setup for my 4.2 XKR. I had the breather hose chopped in half when I had the intake elbow out, so now it's easier to connect a line from the PCV breather to the can.

Built a nice bracket and installed it neatly above the RH wheel well. Needed 2 90 degree steel plates, bent one and cut the other in half. And a piece of carbon fiber hockey stick there too.

Only downside to this setup is I have to detach the can to drain it, since there is no clearance to unscrew it.

I'll update when I have the hoses installed. Looking for a clear tube, but can't seem to find 1.


Exactly what I'm looking for. I got 4.2 xkr as well and with all extra hp I'm pushing, I'm questioning if stock setup is enough.
Can you provide more photos where you connected spliced into please. How is your setup working so far?
 
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Been driving for a few days and so far so good. Picked up a noticeable amount of oil so far, but not as much as I hoped.

The double baffle design is ok for now, but i've seen some people put Brillo stainless steel pads in there to catch more oil. I will probably consider this in the future.


Here is the initial setup. The thicker hose is suppossed to be a PCV/emissions hose, but it was collapsing under vaccuum and I wasn't too thrilled about that.


I ended up doing the same thing I did to the norma connector at the throttle elbow ... shaving it down and coupling it to the PCV valve with a trimmed hose and clamps. I got lucky and found a hose that tappered well enough to stay tight on the PCV valve end and on the shaved down norma connector.




Wanted to see if any oil was still getting through, and since the rubber hoses were collapsing, I went with this 'semi-final' design with clear tubing. When I am satisfied with the baffle enhancements I will probably go back to some stronger black tubing. and get rid of the clear. But for now, this is what I have...


 

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Good job, with black hoses it looks almost factory!
 
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Looks great, def on my short list of mods
 
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I'm still unsure where placement for 5.0 models might workout.
 
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Originally Posted by pwpacp
Good job, with black hoses it looks almost factory!
Thanks, and yeah I'll go back to the black hoses once i'm comfortable with the baffle in the can and the amount of oil being caught.
 
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Since you have to remove it to empty, what about adding a sight tube like this:



Or even a petcock valve on the bottom for easy emptying?
 
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Originally Posted by Beau M
Since you have to remove it to empty, what about adding a sight tube like this:



Or even a petcock valve on the bottom for easy emptying?
This is the type I have installed however I am not 100% certain that the sight tube is air tight on mine. It swivels too easily.

The reason I say this is because I have a slight "perturbation" in engine revs which I attribute to an air leak somewhere. I have had it for a while and because it is so slight have not bothered to hunt it down.

After reading this thread feel energized to do something about it.
 
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If you have collapsing line problems, insert a long spirally-spring-looking thing inside the line.

Hard to describe, but like a ballpoint pen spring, but larger. No more collapsing.
 
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Originally Posted by gkubrak
Been driving for a few days and so far so good. Picked up a noticeable amount of oil so far, but not as much as I hoped.

The double baffle design is ok for now, but i've seen some people put Brillo stainless steel pads in there to catch more oil. I will probably consider this in the future.


Here is the initial setup. The thicker hose is suppossed to be a PCV/emissions hose, but it was collapsing under vaccuum and I wasn't too thrilled about that.


I ended up doing the same thing I did to the norma connector at the throttle elbow ... shaving it down and coupling it to the PCV valve with a trimmed hose and clamps. I got lucky and found a hose that tappered well enough to stay tight on the PCV valve end and on the shaved down norma connector.




Wanted to see if any oil was still getting through, and since the rubber hoses were collapsing, I went with this 'semi-final' design with clear tubing. When I am satisfied with the baffle enhancements I will probably go back to some stronger black tubing. and get rid of the clear. But for now, this is what I have...

Nice work ! I might replicate your setup. If the top of the catch can easily opens
I think easiest way to get rid of oil is to use a syringe of some sort to suction it out
 
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I haven't seen a top opening one, but I'm sure you can stick a syringe into the dip-stick opening and suck it out that way.

Although I will say, that stuff that comes out is pretty thick and sludgy, not sure I would risk my automotive syringe on that - maybe a 1 time use syringe.
Makes you wonder how bad the intercoolers look inside after all that smog goes through them.

As for the level indicator, i read reviews for a bunch of those and found that some people had to heavily modify and seal those things up tight due to leaks, as jackra_1 mentioned. With all the vacuum and breather issues ive seen, I just wanted to keep it tight and simple.

McMaster has a large variety of tubing for this sort of thing, and I will probably go with a hard plastic next time, seeing as there isn't that much bending that needs to happen.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
If you have collapsing line problems, insert a long spirally-spring-looking thing inside the line.

Hard to describe, but like a ballpoint pen spring, but larger. No more collapsing.
Hmmm, so a stent for an artery?
 
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Turkey baster.
 


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