Are we too focused on the way a vehicle sounds as opposed to the way in performs

Does the Telsa P100 lack soul does the new turbo 4cyl f type also fall into that category

 

I think not. A well defined exhaust note encourages more throttle. It becomes a visceral drive of emotions similar to a climax during sex. Or maybe not...

I have a Bobcat 2 into 1 header / muffler on my '05 Sporty and it does drive me to act like a hooligan. At 3k rpm the header and cam timing come together to accelerate the bike harder at any set throttle point. You'll hear it in the exhaust note. It goes from calm burble to a striving driving rasping sound that demands you run it up to 5k or above lean forward a little more and attack curves and turns.

My '93 Mustang was similar because the supercharger started working at 3k, as did the X pipe. The long tube headers were pulling from 2500 rpm and it all because a crescendo of sound and emotion the further the 'go' pedal was pushed. It had a similar torque curve as the XKR so I hope I can duplicate it.

I will say that I am biased. I despise 4 and 6 cylinder gas engines. Just no V8 soul regardless of how you cam or exhaust them even at similar power levels.

 

I don't know about the F-Type's 4 cylinder, but I do like the engine note from my Porsche 944's.

The rumble from the 2.5L 4 on start up is always a pleasant sound.

 

Yes imo. we are a dying breed I'm afraid. And for the love of Christ, a 4 cylinder F-Type?

 

I remember when Mazda first came out with the Miata, they spent a lot of advertising dollars talking about how much time they spent tuning the exhaust note to get it 'right'. And they were right to do it; there's a big difference in driver emotional response when the car sings back with the right notes.

The purchase tipping point on my wife's used 2007 XK was the modified exhaust. A prior owner had modified the exhaust system so that it was a low rumble on idle, and when you put your foot in it, the gates of hell opened up. She loved it, and lived with the exhaust for two years before we bought a stock exhaust off a wrecking yard.

 

There was a commercial run here in the US where a model carries a microphone behind a Mustang. The back wall is all speakers and then they proceed to rev the engine. It sounds so sweet.

At least I think it was a Mustang commercial. I can't stop looking at the model holding the mike. Maybe they were selling hamburgers.

 

LOL!

I always loved the sound of the Mustang GTs. Ford did a great job tuning the exhaust note IMO. I drove the same '86 GT for 25 years. The tone is embedded deep in my skull. I can identify a mustang from 3 miles away

 

Performance and sound should go hand in hand…….. Nothing against hybrid cars or electric cars, but, a nice exhaust tone as you leave your parking spot or anytime you decide to 'go for it' still works for me. Are Teslas soulless? I'll never know as I will never buy one…… on the other hand, the BMW I8 is another story….

 

I love the note my XK makes with the X pipe/resonator delete!

 

I think it has to go beyond just the bolt on exhaust itself. Even modified Mustang V8's still have a something special to the sound that the Doge's and Chebbys do not.

I'm not an expert, maybe its head design, valve timing, I really don't know, but its my favorite cross plane crank shaft V8.

 

It's a flat crank layout instead of a 90 degree layout like other V8's. I read some engineering stuff a while ago about the design and they are tricky to make run but run and sound amazing when they do.

 

Jaguars are supposed to sound unique


Jaguar F-TYPE: exotic exhaust notes explained | The Chronicle Herald


Justin: How important is the exhaust noise of a car like the F-TYPE? Do owners ask for or demand a car that’s totally gnarly sounding, or is this something inherent of all Jaguar models?
Dr. Denne: Central to the Jaguar Sound Quality DNA is the delivery of a duality – both an exhilarating and an effortless driving experience. The cars purr at idle. They have an effortless and refined cruising character, with an underlying promise of performance. This promise is delivered through a powerful and purposeful Sound Quality character that builds to a rewarding, crisp crescendo under performance drivingJaguars are supposed to sound unique

 

Only the latest super special engine has the flat crank, not sure the model, but its not common. The flat crank engine sounds like two inline four's instead of the burble/rumble that the cross plane crank has.

 

Yep, that's what they did in the new 5.0 across the board.

 

I believe the flat crank is only in the 5.2L Mustang GT option. The 5.0L is still the cross plane crank. Ferrari has had flat plane cranks back in the 70's in their V8 as well as all their later models. Love to hear those 3.0L+ engines wind out to 8K.

 

I'd have to drive the 4 banger F-Type to see. I assume it's a lighter engine, probably revs quicker & higher; could make the whole package more fun for certain driving locales.

 

My buddy's Shelby GT350 sounds the *****. I can hear his car coming 300 yards from my house. Not to mention is it a beast to drive. Have to be careful with so much power and so easy to drive.

 

I can see they're marketing slogan now:

"0-60 eventually"

It's just not right I tells ya. It breaks my heart.

 

+1 100% correct

 

From what I've read the 2017 GT350 is 526HP t 7500 rpm and 429 lb. ft torque with 0-60 time of 4.3 sec. It is Fords 1st flat plane crank aluminum 5.2L V8.

So for you numbers guys it is .3 sec faster then the 5.0L XKR and maybe a little slower then the XKR-S. Just keeping things in perspective.