After picking up my 2002 XKR from my mechanic, yesterday, and probably spending (haven't got the bill yet) at least $1200,again, as well as the fact that I have 140,000 miles on it, I've come to the realization that I probably need to have another car to give my 2002 some relief, once in a while. (even though I drove my 2002 about 500 miles today, top down in the California sun, and it was just a pleasure) So, since I have also craved a coupe for its beauty and for the fact that I can take it to the track 3 or 4 times per year (convertibles not allowed with Audi Club), and my 1972 Pantera is just too limited as to the tracks I would be willing to take it to, I have been scouring used car listings for 2010 XKR Coupes. I wouldn't buy new as I'm not willing to give away the depreciation.

So, I came upon a 2010 with over 60,000 miles, clean Car Fax, local in Los Angeles, for $38,000.00. I saw the car in the evening, and it looked very good, interior looked very good, as well, very slight stretching of the driver seat cover, but nothing objectionable. I briefly drove the car, nice and tight, powerful, planted. Silver with charcoal interior, some exterior mods, such as blacking out all the trim around the windows, body colored plinth on the rear, and powder coated black exhaust tips.

Then, today, I had to drive up to San Luis Obispo (3 hours north of L.A.) for a job I'm starting, and I decided I would go look at the 2009 Portfolio XKR that was mentioned in the post "for those looking." It was at a dealership in San Luis Obispo and happened to be about 2 blocks away from a stone yard at which I was ordering some material. The 2009 Portfolio, simply put, is a "new" car, 9500 miles. When I opened the door, the strong, pungent odor of fresh leather, "smacked" me in the face. The car was showroom fresh, Shadow Charcoal exterior/warm charcoal with red stitching and Oak trim interior, and it looked like it had never be sat upon. And those Serena wheels! Only the fact that the car was very dusty and tires had mud on them prevented it from appearing as it did the day it left the factory.

I love that 5.0L 2010, I love the Portfolio and all the goodies that come with it. I believe the 2009 will sell for around $45,000 plus tax brings it to about $49K or $11 grand more than the 2010. Either will be a part time car as I will continue driving my 'vert on a daily basis (It actually feels more lively, maybe I'm just used to it) as I still love what it looks like (looks new), love the wind in what little hair is left, and love its classic tradition.

Which would you choose?

 

Wow, tough call on the two, but I personally favor the Portfolio... Pretty much the best of the first generation XK series, and with such low miles she should be trouble free.

A 2010 with 60k is very high mileage to me, after all, my '07 is driven hard and has 70k.

Others will pipe in, and maybe your best option is neither.... But I would be proud to have that '09 in my garage....

BOL
Vince

 

I will speak on behalf of the 2009 Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition, because I own the same car in the convertible model.

I bought mine in May 2013 with 13,500 miles for $46,000. That was almost 9 months ago. Mine was the convert so the value is a bit higher. Mine also had the Alcon oversized rotors and calipers a $5000 option. I felt I got an extrodinary deal at the time. The same car can be found for sale at about $51,000 to $53,000.

As for the low miles, they are a big plus. You have seen the interior and appears that it is in new condition. Since it is a coupe, and does not have the Alcons, the KBB shows the car for a dealer sale would be $50,818 and for a private party $49,718.

See link:

Kelley Blue Book

Edmunds. com has the car priced at: $44,662, which I feel is abit more realistic.

http://www.edmunds.com/jaguar/xk/200...e-results.html

The 4.2L Supercharged Engine delivers 410HP, more than you would ever need. The wheels are the 20" Selena" wheels which were made special for the 2009 Portfolio Edition. The Portfolio Edition is pure luxury and has all the luxury options. I looked over the ad closely several days ago. The only options this 2009 lacks is the Adaptive Cruise Control and Alcon brakes, otherwise everything is premium.

Only 180 Coupes were made in 2009 for the Portfolio.

I think an offer for $42,000 to $43,000 would make this car a good value.

Does the dealer own it or is it under consignment?

While some might make a stand for the 2010, and the larger 5.0L engine has some valid points. There is a big difference in mileage however driven between the 2009 (9500) and the 2010 (60,000). Technically both are out of warranty.

On a personal basis, the 2009 XKR Portfolio is a beautiful car, ultra low miles, powerful and fast with the supercharged engine. Rare with only 180 imported into the USA. Lots of luxury options. If this is a car that you will have for some time, I suggest make a solid offer of $42000 to $43,000 max, and see what goes.

BTW: Color is Shadow Gray, with Charcol double stiched Cranberry Red stitching, wheels once again are style called Selena.

Here's a few 2009's for sale...like you are looking at....you can compare...

Jaguar XK Portfolio | eBay

https://www.carsforsale.com/used_car...io_224992498_3

Keep us posted......

 

That's a tough choice. You mentioned that you plan to track it 3 or 4 times per year. Ultimately would you miss not having the extra 2010 HP at the track? Is "neither" a choice and keep looking for a lower mileage 2010, perhaps with a little warranty left (although that's a tough find and time is running out)? I got my 2010 XK vert a month ago with 27k miles and 5 months left on the warranty. I'm glad I had that to get a few issues taken care of without any more out of pocket costs (at least through June).

 

I too agree with hendercc. Why not choice 3? A 2010 with reasonable miles for the same or less than you would be paying for the 2009? If you are planning on spending this much money, take your time and look around. You do have other choices out there and certainly don't let your emotions cloud your decision making. Unless you have no transportation at all, take a deep breath, and start researching XKs. The right car is out there, and lower mileage and newer is better yet. Good luck.

 

Love the look of your 2002 XKR in red BTW. That's a beautiful car.

 

You should be able to find an "as new" condition 2010 XKR's rather easily also, and if you're going to track it that will be the far better choice. Huge brakes, firmer spring and roll bar rates, continuously variable and adaptive dampers and limited slip electronic differential all add up to significantly higher track performance than the pre-2010 years....and 510 hp is a lot closer to being enough power. The 2010+ suspension is very compliant even on 20" wheels, very neutral balance without the pronounced understeer and body roll of the earlier set-up, and the e-diff and heated tires puts the power down better on the track than it does on the street. And if that's not enough, I just can't imagine trying to clean those intricate Selena wheels after a day at the track!

Now I get that everyone likes the vintage they own, but seriously, why would anyone recommend a pre-'09 when tracking is part of the equation when such comprehensive performance upgrades were made in 2010? The Portfolio standard features were special back then, but became standard for the most part in 2010, along with new ones, right?

 

I agree with Boca. However if you can get a great price on the 2009, consider it. I look at the Jaguar XK/XKR ads daily and I see some good deals out there, you just have to be patient. Set a budget, and stick with that budget.

As far as tracking these beautiful XK/XKR's, I am not a fan of doing that. These are luxury cars, and not track cars. If you want to put a car on a track and have fun, buy something that you can beat up and have fun. Track days can be very hard and rough on stock street cars. I have a solid 10 years of real racing experience and have seen many individuals beat up nice cars even on open track days.

Take your time, and research, research, research. All members have have valid points and love their Jags, so be sure take all advice and input.

 

I've been doing a lot of searching and before I narrowed it down to what I am looking for I've seen a fair number of coupes . If you would consider $45K as a target number I have found 2010 coupes with around 30K miles available for that price . I see most of them from $45-$50K with the higher mileage cars going for a little less. Now I would agree with Rich here on the portfolio model not really being a track car. The one you saw sounds great but if you are considering fun track days I would go for a 2010 with 50K miles for a price of $40-$45K. They are out there. Good luck as no matter which one you select it will be a great car.

 

I believe either way you are in for a treat.

I would lean more towards the 2010, if you plan to do some track racing the LSD and extra power will make it more fun.

Personally I would hold back when driving the portfolio as it seems good as new from what you say and will inevitably recieve a harsh pounding from the track (depending how aggressively you drive)

It is very hard to choose between the two, logic would say the 2010 and your heart will tell you the 2009.

Good luck and congratulations on whichever one you end up choosing.
I'm sure many many miles with a grin from ear to ear lay ahead of you

 

2009 is overpriced!

 

Go for a 10 with lower mileage. the 10 is a far better vehicle tighter all the way around and 5.0l is a far superior engine. go to Jaguar dealer and ask some questions of the service manager\shop foreman and see what they have to say. although I loved my 08 I love my 12 even more and the 10 has most of the advances that are on the 12.

 

Ted, you're a dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast. You know the moment you buy you're going to wish you spent just a little more for that perfect, late-model, low-mileage XKR. The extra cash will be worth the smile on your face.

 

I just went thru this dilemma. I wanted an XKR but.... The NA 5.0 motor is a thing of beauty both in sound and linear power. I loved the 4.2 in my 98 and 04 XJ's but it was lacking the necessary cubes. I decided (as a Lotus guy) to go with the newer motor in the lighter car. Read the reviews and test results. Rarely except in the hands of a TRUE professional do stiffer suspensions make drivers faster ie XKR v XK (in dynamic mode). I have oversuspended an STi for track and was no faster. I have seen way too many folks in Eliges go Nitron crazy and I'd kill them with my basic Elise track pack. My Evora is stock and seriously fast. etc. I say get the new motor. I is amazing. Might be a top motor of all time list type! its that good.

 

I ended up spending extra to get a 5.0 XKR, after I test-drove both the 4.2 and 5.0. It's a better car - that's not saying the 4.2 is 'bad' in any way, but the 5.0 engine, continuously-variable dampers & e-diff take the whole car up a notch, if you like a car to be performance-oriented. If you'e not a press-on driver, or you don't have the opportunity because you spend all your time on city streets and freeways, then you probably won't miss that edge in performance.

 

i faced the same decision one month ago. I don't plan to track my car so I went with the low mileage portfolio. I am thinking about the re-map and pulley mod, but if not going to the track I'm not even sure about that.

 

Carl:

When do you get the new ride? Have they completed the new top?

 

Portfolio would be my choice. Both are nice but you're basically getting a new car in the portfolio.

 

Update!
Went back last Sunday to San Luis Obispo with my friend, played a round of golf, and then went back to see the 2009 Portfolio XKR with 9500 miles. The car was pristine as in a new car, and they were asking $46995. The car was gorgeous, but I had pretty much made up my mind that I wanted the 5 liter engine, therefore a 2010 or newer. (It turns out that the car was sold Sunday afternoon anyway) I had a very long week of work, out of town Sunday-Wednesday, and when I got back I received a call from the owner of the 2010 XKR that I had briefly driven and seen during the previous week, wondering if I still had interest. I told him I wanted to take it to my mechanic to run the code reader and see if there were any problems. We met about 1:30pm, today, and after plugging in the reader, found that the only code was a bad cam sensor. I had just replaced one in my 2002 XKR, last week. But my mechanic was bothered by a knocking in the engine and upon revving it, said to me and the owner, that the engine was getting ready to throw a rod and would either need an engine rebuild or a new engine! Needless to say, the owner was in a state of shock. He thought this would be routine, and now he was wondering if he was going to make it home. After calming down a bit, he remembered that he had purchased the extended warranty and was still 3000 miles under its limits. He called the warranty company and was told they would pay for a full rebuild of the engine at the shop of his choice. At first I thought it would be a good idea for the rebuild to be done at my mechanic as I would know exactly what went into the rebuild, but I then suggested to the owner that maybe it was more prudent to have it done at his local Jaguar dealership as they would provide a factory warranty. I told the owner that so long as the rebuild was done at Jaguar, I would have little hesitation buying the car as the nervousness that I had about the 69K mileage would be alleviated by having an essentially brand new engine. Tomorrow, he is filing his claim with the extended warranty company and making arrangements with the large Jaguar dealership near him.

What do you guys think?

 

If it's done & warranted by a Jag dealer, it should be fine. It's a funny thing - having identified a problem and getting it fixed before purchase, you're actually in a better situation than buying a car that seems fine. You can now be sure of the engine's condition.