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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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So I bought my 2007 XKR in 2010 when it had 20000 miles on it and 11 years later and at 140,000 miles ( not to mention my less than stellar car-care) the paint looks molested at a few locations .

I am attaching 3 pics of 3 diff areas of diff kind of damage and would be interested in hearing advise/reccos re how best to approach this

Blistering on the right side

Bumper chips / etc

Kids bicycle handles caused scratches
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 05:16 PM
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Some of the crap in the bottom two pics can MAYBE be buffed out. It'll leave some marks but be much better than it is.
The top pic you need to have some corrosion work done and then a partial respray.
Buff/polish the entire thing, you'll be surprised how good it'll come out (after it gets washed & clay-barred or micro-sponged).
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Some of the crap in the bottom two pics can MAYBE be buffed out. It'll leave some marks but be much better than it is.
The top pic you need to have some corrosion work done and then a partial respray.
Buff/polish the entire thing, you'll be surprised how good it'll come out (after it gets washed & clay-barred or micro-sponged).
Thank you Prof ,
any specific polish that you recommend for this color ( the British Racing Green) ?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 05:52 PM
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Well there's the right way and then there's the easy way. The bubbles either need to be cut out and a new panel welded in or sand it then body filler and then sell the car. Next the side scratches. If they are through the clear coat you need to sand and prep the whole panel. The bumper cover just needs to be resprayed. Also after a complete inspection I'm sure you will find some other stuff. Matching the color will be another trick because it has dulled with age . Looking at the outside I question what the inside and undercarriage looks like. So my net is either respray the whole car (around $10K) or sell it or drive it until it dies.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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I've been restoring classic cars for years but I don't own an X150 so can you tell me exactly where on the car that corrosion is? I'm trying to guess how it started because that's really what you have to address or it will come right back. I.e. was water getting in behind the panel somehow or is the paint cracked nearby or something?

A full body respray, done properly, will cost many thousands of dollars. But being that the car is not that old, you may be able to have only the damaged portions re-painted and the rest of the car treated to a paint correction process. There are a lot of videos on youtube by professional detailers pulling much older and worse neglected cars out of actual horse barns, polishing them, repainting a few bad spots, touching up of little nicks and scratches and showing astounding results. The cost in labor hours is still quite substantial but less than a whole new paint job. The choice is really where your own threshold falls, i.e. will you be happy with pretty darned good for $5,000 or do you go ahead and spend $10 grand and make it look like brand new again.

If you decide on a full respray, right now is starting car show season. I suggest to go to a few local car shows this spring and when you see a car that you like the paint job, ask the owner of that car two questions: 1) Who painted it? and 2) If you don't mind saying, how much did it cost? Notice I ask specifically "who" and not the name of the shop. I learned the hard way 34 years ago that a shop's entire reputation can move to another shop across town should the guy with the spray gun in his hand decide to take a better offer. And don't be shocked if the first few car owners you ask tell you they paid $20 - $30 grand for their paint job. After all, they are show cars and you tend to gravitate toward them. But if you ask around enough, you'll eventually learn to judge the difference between a show car finish, a Maaco budget finish and everything in between, including a Jaguar factory-quality finish. Once you have a name that you want to get a quote from, be sure and mention the specific car/owner that you got his reference from. The painter will or should remember (if it was recent enough) and will understand that is the same quality of work that you are expecting for your own car.

And after its done, don't let it get that bad again.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
Looking at the outside I question what the inside and undercarriage looks like. So my net is either respray the whole car (around $10K) or sell it or drive it until it dies.
Sigh, where do I even begin .... the exterior is actually the better preserved section of the car sadly . I am not very good at taking care of things to begin with and for the better part of ownership of this car had a lot going on in life ( or at least thats my excuse lol) . Having said that , selling the car is out of question. Even though I didnt take very good care of it, I love this car. I flew out to Cleveland,OH on April 10 2010 just to buy this BRG color and drove it 1000 miles to Houston . 11 years later it still puts a smile on my face just like it did then :-)

Much appreciation for your input , will try to keep you guys posted


 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pdupler
I've been restoring classic cars for years but I don't own an X150 so can you tell me exactly where on the car that corrosion is? I'm trying to guess how it started because that's really what you have to address or it will come right back. I.e. was water getting in behind the panel somehow or is the paint cracked nearby or something?

A full body respray, done properly, will cost many thousands of dollars. But being that the car is not that old, you may be able to have only the damaged portions re-painted and the rest of the car treated to a paint correction process. There are a lot of videos on youtube by professional detailers pulling much older and worse neglected cars out of actual horse barns, polishing them, repainting a few bad spots, touching up of little nicks and scratches and showing astounding results. The cost in labor hours is still quite substantial but less than a whole new paint job. The choice is really where your own threshold falls, i.e. will you be happy with pretty darned good for $5,000 or do you go ahead and spend $10 grand and make it look like brand new again.

If you decide on a full respray, right now is starting car show season. I suggest to go to a few local car shows this spring and when you see a car that you like the paint job, ask the owner of that car two questions: 1) Who painted it? and 2) If you don't mind saying, how much did it cost? Notice I ask specifically "who" and not the name of the shop. I learned the hard way 34 years ago that a shop's entire reputation can move to another shop across town should the guy with the spray gun in his hand decide to take a better offer. And don't be shocked if the first few car owners you ask tell you they paid $20 - $30 grand for their paint job. After all, they are show cars and you tend to gravitate toward them. But if you ask around enough, you'll eventually learn to judge the difference between a show car finish, a Maaco budget finish and everything in between, including a Jaguar factory-quality finish. Once you have a name that you want to get a quote from, be sure and mention the specific car/owner that you got his reference from. The painter will or should remember (if it was recent enough) and will understand that is the same quality of work that you are expecting for your own car.

And after its done, don't let it get that bad again.
That was such an informative post. You Sir are a pundit and a gentleman and seem to know what you are talking about . Thank you much ,esp for that much-deserved head-smack .

I think the problem started with my convertible top window separating from the fabric and letting rain water seep inside the panel . I will be happy with 'quite darned good" but was hoping i would be able to achieve that with about 2k . Have a budget of 5-6k for repairing/restoration of the car and out of that 2k will go towards replacing a seat and upholstery and 2k towards new top leaving 2k for paint work ( for now ).

I will prob go for a complete re-paint 2-3 years down the line iif i am able to keep the car running
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 09:28 PM
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I disagree. It is a roughed up 2007. Enjoy it. Any monies put in are strictly for your enjoyment. There is no investment here.
I’m with Cee Jay on this one. Get it buffed up and enjoy as it is. And be confident and satisfied you’ve enjoyed her as she was meant to be enjoyed.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kanwarpreet Baweja
Thank you Prof ,
any specific polish that you recommend for this color ( the British Racing Green) ?
I have no favorites, just follow the manufacturer's directions for your requirements.
End it off with a coat of NuFinish car coating. It's REALLY shiny for a quick job.
NuFinish on Amazon NuFinish on Amazon
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 05:47 AM
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actually... have you ever tried autoglym polish for dark colors!? In a word, wow.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 06:53 AM
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Just drive until the license plate falls off and walk away...

How about just treat the corrosion and wrap the car?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 12:09 PM
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3M has a three step process the body shops use called "Perfect It". Pick it up at any automotive paint supply shop, they will sell you three different buffing pads one for each step. This and a variable speed buffer (I use a Dewalt less than $200.00) will give you outstanding results even with paint in the worst of conditions. This is an easy DIY project that will put a grin on your face for years to come for the price of a dinner for two at an upscale steak joint. It's not magic and some of your scratches/corrosion are a wee bit too deep but the rest of the car will respond beyond belief.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Just drive until the license plate falls off and walk away...

How about just treat the corrosion and wrap the car?
the budget for now is 2K , wrapping the car would be at least a 4-5 K project I believe
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 03:04 PM
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Thanks for the input guys , not sure yet which way to go . Will prob get some car paint repair shop guys input and estimate tomorrow and take it from there ,

I know it may be an impractical pipe dream but in 8-9 years time when my boy starts college , I want this car to still be running and be my gift to him lol
 
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Old Apr 7, 2021 | 03:04 PM
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Please: from where on the car is the first pic?

I do not understand the corrosion there, isn´t the car body made of Aluminium??

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Originally Posted by Arminius
Please: from where on the car is the first pic?

I do not understand the corrosion there, isn´t the car body made of Aluminium??

Hermann
it’s not really corrosion , it’s what’s called ‘blistering ‘ of the paint … can be caused by poor repainting , painting under the sun or ( as was prob in my case ), water seeping in panel
 
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Originally Posted by Kanwarpreet Baweja
it’s not really corrosion , it’s what’s called ‘blistering ‘ of the paint … can be caused by poor repainting , painting under the sun or ( as was prob in my case ), water seeping in panel
...... caused by corrosion of the aluminum.
Sure, it ain't rust, but it sure is corroded. The paint wouldn't blister otherwise. Aluminum gives off a white-powdery substance when it corrodes. Evidently water got underneath the paint.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Evidently water got underneath the paint.
I believe that OP confirmed this TWICE in post 7 and 16?
 
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Originally Posted by Kanwarpreet Baweja
it’s not really corrosion , it’s what’s called ‘blistering ‘ of the paint … can be caused by poor repainting , painting under the sun or ( as was prob in my case ), water seeping in panel
Originally Posted by MarkyUK
I believe that OP confirmed this TWICE in post 7 and 16?
Are you stalking me??? Read the post by Kanwarpreet directly above MY post. I was replying to HIM.
You've been hassling me today, and I don't know why.
 
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[QUOTE=Kanwarpreet Baweja;2375803
I know it may be an impractical pipe dream but in 8-9 years time when my boy starts college , I want this car to still be running and be my gift to him lol[/QUOTE]

Think you need to take better care of the car if you want it to be alive in 8-9 years.
 
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