Upkeep costs? Normal maintenance costs?
Hello again all,
I'm still gathering information and considering a purchase of a 2013 XK. I'm very much a novice at buying used and have never bought a high end vehicle, so my apologies for annoying questions.
Can anyone shed light on upkeep costs on an XK for normal things like replacing bulbs and other small things that ordinarily are easy to get and cheap to install or have installed? In other words, are the nickel and dime things on regular cars going to be hundreds of dollars every time on this car?
I'm still gathering information and considering a purchase of a 2013 XK. I'm very much a novice at buying used and have never bought a high end vehicle, so my apologies for annoying questions.
Can anyone shed light on upkeep costs on an XK for normal things like replacing bulbs and other small things that ordinarily are easy to get and cheap to install or have installed? In other words, are the nickel and dime things on regular cars going to be hundreds of dollars every time on this car?
There's nothing exceptional or unusual about Scheduled Maintenance so no hidden surprises there. As Cee Jay suggests, injectors are a weakness and I would add brake pads/disks to the regularly consumable list.
As a prestige vehicle, Jaguar parts are expensive. For example, break a headlamp and you'd get a very nasty shock at the replacement cost.
Most members are "hands on" which saves a lot of money. Expertise, even for small jobs gets expensive in comparison with the equivalent for mass produced vehicles.
Graham
As a prestige vehicle, Jaguar parts are expensive. For example, break a headlamp and you'd get a very nasty shock at the replacement cost.
Most members are "hands on" which saves a lot of money. Expertise, even for small jobs gets expensive in comparison with the equivalent for mass produced vehicles.
Graham
5.0L oil and filter changes are easy DIY jobs because the filter is mounted on top of the engine and the oil is removed from the filler on top using an extraction pump.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ge-diy-211355/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ge-diy-211355/
Greetings Splendidcat,
There is much that the novice do it yourselfer can manage. But there are those little things that may surprise you... synthetic fluids only, stick to a rigorous maintenance schedule, and tires might surprise you too.
And your fuel bill. And your insurance.
And remember, its an eight cylinder.
I humbly disagree with some if my counterparts, I actually find my dealer reasonable. As I am a member of the Jaguar Club, I get significant discounts in parts and labour. But the part I like the most is that things are fixed the first time correctly, with premium parts. With turnaround within that very day. And they always take me at the drop of a hat.
There is much that the novice do it yourselfer can manage. But there are those little things that may surprise you... synthetic fluids only, stick to a rigorous maintenance schedule, and tires might surprise you too.
And your fuel bill. And your insurance.
And remember, its an eight cylinder.
I humbly disagree with some if my counterparts, I actually find my dealer reasonable. As I am a member of the Jaguar Club, I get significant discounts in parts and labour. But the part I like the most is that things are fixed the first time correctly, with premium parts. With turnaround within that very day. And they always take me at the drop of a hat.
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Wealth isn't a requirement to owning a 7 year old Jaguar, but the car is a luxury car. Parts are expensive because it's not a mass production vehicle. Simplest way to find out if it's within your budget is get some repair quotes (including parts) from your dealer and compare them to what you now spend on your current vehicles. Just tell them you own the 2013 XK and ask:
eg, what do you charge for a brake job, transmission flush, coolant flush, oil change, thermostat replacement, e-differential fluid, A/C charge, WATER PUMP,front and rear lower control arms, upper arms, struts, replace all injectors, etc....
You'll get an idea then whether you can afford it. In the end, what I pay for a repair is parts only. Others use independent mechanics, some who will install a part you bring in, others won't. Dealers charge different rates for labor around the country so it's hard to give you specifics. I think a couple of guys have posted receipts.
Take a look at this thread from the DIY sticky section. You can see the recommended maintenance:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1/#post2173730
Also look in the sticky DIY for ideas as to what guys do with their cars.
The car is a toy, plain and simple. There is nothing practical about owning an X150. If you pull the trigger, enjoy!
eg, what do you charge for a brake job, transmission flush, coolant flush, oil change, thermostat replacement, e-differential fluid, A/C charge, WATER PUMP,front and rear lower control arms, upper arms, struts, replace all injectors, etc....
You'll get an idea then whether you can afford it. In the end, what I pay for a repair is parts only. Others use independent mechanics, some who will install a part you bring in, others won't. Dealers charge different rates for labor around the country so it's hard to give you specifics. I think a couple of guys have posted receipts.
Take a look at this thread from the DIY sticky section. You can see the recommended maintenance:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1/#post2173730
Also look in the sticky DIY for ideas as to what guys do with their cars.
The car is a toy, plain and simple. There is nothing practical about owning an X150. If you pull the trigger, enjoy!
Splendidcat,
Since you say you are a novice at used cars,I can help simplify this.
Set aside $4k and you are covered for all eventualities. Naturally you will still have to be somewhat resourceful in your choice of repair shops. Then again this car was the privilege of those lot more resourceful than that,
Its the same as any other car from 2013 with lots of features. With one big exception: this is the best bargain on the market, bar none.
Another incredible benefit, many were well cared for by owners who pampered them- not to be confused with a BMW or Audi.
For that reason the only expensive mistake you can make is to buy from a dealer. When this car is unique in having owners who dont just turn them in after years of neglect.
So if you get one from a dealer make sure its had a great service and driving history. Post your findings here and other will help you.
Since you say you are a novice at used cars,I can help simplify this.
Set aside $4k and you are covered for all eventualities. Naturally you will still have to be somewhat resourceful in your choice of repair shops. Then again this car was the privilege of those lot more resourceful than that,
Its the same as any other car from 2013 with lots of features. With one big exception: this is the best bargain on the market, bar none.
Another incredible benefit, many were well cared for by owners who pampered them- not to be confused with a BMW or Audi.
For that reason the only expensive mistake you can make is to buy from a dealer. When this car is unique in having owners who dont just turn them in after years of neglect.
So if you get one from a dealer make sure its had a great service and driving history. Post your findings here and other will help you.
If you drive alot......Tires, Tires, Tires....One of the reasons to own a low mileage example is that repair costs can be so prohibitive... Maintenance is fairly reasonable, Oil changes, brakes, etc... on par with other manufacturers.
My 2013 had a shock failure at 37K. List is $800+....each. I sourced a set of OEMs for $630 each, but the lesson is it's a machine, a rather complex machine, and anything can go wrong.
Doesn't mean anything will go wrong, but it's all in the realm of possibility. An OEM front rotor is $200, so even if you do your own work, front brakes are a $600+ job. And as others have pointed
out, tires. At 15K you're on slicks. The upside? You will not care. In fact, you will rationalize every cent as a worthwhile endeavor on the road to automotive bliss. Every once and while you may
think to yourself as you wait at a light that is red, while more responsible men imagine themselves somehow unbonded from their own reality and sitting where you are, for the money I spend I
could be in a DB9 of equal vintage. And you really could if the Jag demons knock at your door with troubling frequency. But it still wouldn't be a Shaaaguar.
Doesn't mean anything will go wrong, but it's all in the realm of possibility. An OEM front rotor is $200, so even if you do your own work, front brakes are a $600+ job. And as others have pointed
out, tires. At 15K you're on slicks. The upside? You will not care. In fact, you will rationalize every cent as a worthwhile endeavor on the road to automotive bliss. Every once and while you may
think to yourself as you wait at a light that is red, while more responsible men imagine themselves somehow unbonded from their own reality and sitting where you are, for the money I spend I
could be in a DB9 of equal vintage. And you really could if the Jag demons knock at your door with troubling frequency. But it still wouldn't be a Shaaaguar.
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To answer your direct question.
A bulb is a bulb.
However, with a 2013, it has custom LED clusters compared to my 2009 with simple bulbs.
An oil filter is an oil filter, oil is oil, tires are tires, etc...
In my case, even with an inexpensive car, I am still choosing expensive high grip tires, no difference there.
Since this is the only conventional automatic and seperate differential car that I own, I have no idea how the fluid costs are on this Jaguar compared to other cars.
A bulb is a bulb.
However, with a 2013, it has custom LED clusters compared to my 2009 with simple bulbs.
An oil filter is an oil filter, oil is oil, tires are tires, etc...
In my case, even with an inexpensive car, I am still choosing expensive high grip tires, no difference there.
Since this is the only conventional automatic and seperate differential car that I own, I have no idea how the fluid costs are on this Jaguar compared to other cars.
This all of a bit of stretch, but Jaguar should be looked at for what it is, not as a 2nd place to an Aston.
I have to disagree with most of the people on here. I am not a trained mechanic but I have done a lot of the non-warranty repairs and service on all of the cars I have owned, more so as a hobby, I enjoy it. I have also found, compared to some other brands, Jags are actually quite straightforward and easy to service without the need for expensive specialty tools or procedures.
As far as parts pricing I do not find Jag parts all that expensive and with a bit of research many parts, especially consumables like brakes, filters, fluids, etc can be found very inexpensively, some times with OEM quality equivalents. Can the same be said of Audi, BMW, McLaren?
However, main dealer service pricing I have found is very costly, from labor rates to high percentage markups over MSRP on parts. Guess that’s why fixed ops is how dealers make the majority of the profit.
As far as parts pricing I do not find Jag parts all that expensive and with a bit of research many parts, especially consumables like brakes, filters, fluids, etc can be found very inexpensively, some times with OEM quality equivalents. Can the same be said of Audi, BMW, McLaren?
However, main dealer service pricing I have found is very costly, from labor rates to high percentage markups over MSRP on parts. Guess that’s why fixed ops is how dealers make the majority of the profit.
I agree with you and took the OP's previous posts into consideration. He isn't going to do his own work and will be dependent on a dealership or indy
Exactly, that's why a Jaguar depreciates madly and an Aston does not.
I found the part prices on any Jaguar to be where I would expect car part prices to be for any marque of similar MSRP. The rare times a Jag part can be cross referenced with a Ford part; even better!
Is there a good cross reference chart out there of Jag to Ford parts?
Is there a good cross reference chart out there of Jag to Ford parts?
The beauty of cars these days is they have become entirely modular and everyone is using the same components. Like a ZF6hp, who would have thunk 20 years ago, you could take your Jaguar to a Hyundai dealership and get a transmission. Problem is that even Hyundai is getting eye-watering shop rates too.
The only problematic cars are the ones who are not designing with repair in mind, like some of the Germans putting the timing chain in the back of the engine, or Chevy putting the water pump inside the engine. Those have become the new Lancia.
The only problematic cars are the ones who are not designing with repair in mind, like some of the Germans putting the timing chain in the back of the engine, or Chevy putting the water pump inside the engine. Those have become the new Lancia.
I found the part prices on any Jaguar to be where I would expect car part prices to be for any marque of similar MSRP. The rare times a Jag part can be cross referenced with a Ford part; even better!
Is there a good cross reference chart out there of Jag to Ford parts?
Is there a good cross reference chart out there of Jag to Ford parts?
https://www.yoyopart.com/oem/6016141...ml#interchange










