XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

X150 XK/XKR audio/speaker upgrade investigation

Old Dec 7, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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So ... when can I stroke a check and get a better sound solution?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Uhhhhhh, what is "check"????
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudHogRider
So ... when can I stroke a check and get a better sound solution?
Um, never. Someone loves to post diffuse imponderables to make himself feel more relevant. Reread the posts and you'll understand the snake oil salesman's charm of the whole thing.

It'll cure whatever ails ya while doing nothing at all...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
Um, never. Someone loves to post diffuse imponderables to make himself feel more relevant. Reread the posts and you'll understand the snake oil salesman's charm of the whole thing.

It'll cure whatever ails ya while doing nothing at all...
You are totally wrong about Cambo. His quest is genuine and only for his gain.
He reached out to me before posting this and I even offered him all the material he needed on the house. He was a gent and took nothing.
You might be making yourself feel good by pissing in the cat's milk.
Look at it this way, with so many people desperate for a solution, it would be very easy for someone who knows nothing about the subject to capitalize.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
You are totally wrong about Cambo. His quest is genuine and only for his gain.
He reached out to me before posting this and I even offered him all the material he needed on the house. He was a gent and took nothing.
You might be making yourself feel good by pissing in the cat's milk.
Look at it this way, with so many people desperate for a solution, it would be very easy for someone who knows nothing about the subject to capitalize.
I certainly wasn't talking about Cambo...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 05:23 PM
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I believe Q&C is in the high end audio biz, as he invited me to meet him at an audio show outside Chicago last year (or maybe the year before, I’ve forgotten the exact date), and I planned to go, but had to bail at the last minute as the wife would have shot me, as we were leaving on vacation the next day.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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And the only thing I have done is provide facts, and asked for facts... So I'm puzzled by Ranchero50s accusations.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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We should take Ranchero50's warning of snake-oil salesman seriously he is an internet psychic and apparent audio authority.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
I believe Q&C is in the high end audio biz, as he invited me to meet him at an audio show outside Chicago last year (or maybe the year before, I’ve forgotten the exact date), and I planned to go, but had to bail at the last minute as the wife would have shot me, as we were leaving on vacation the next day.
Will send an invite this year. You must come, only to see how high we have set the bar for the rest of snake-oil manufacturers to copy. Samsung fired 600 folks from Harman and moved most of design to China. We are the last of the last that remains.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2017 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
We should take Ranchero50's warning of snake-oil salesman seriously he is an internet psychic and apparent audio authority.
Nah, I'm just a dummy who loves to learn new stuff. I did learn radio wave propagation theory as an electronics tech in the Navy but that's been decades ago. I guess I should just ask the question.

Sincerely, as you are a proclaimed high end audio guy, what the most relevant and possibly cheapest way to get the mid range audio to balance out against the other spectrum's on our cars?

Focal tweeters and MP3 compression are not topics for this discussion. I don't think DAC's are either. Getting the stock head unit and amps to project sound in a balanced form are. What's the answer? What can the lay person do to improve the sound quality?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
Nah, I'm just a dummy who loves to learn new stuff.

Sincerely, as you are a proclaimed high end audio guy, what the most relevant and possibly cheapest way to get the mid range audio to balance out against the other spectrum's on our cars?

Focal tweeters and MP3 compression are not topics for this discussion. I don't think DAC's are either. Getting the stock head unit and amps to project sound in a balanced form are. What's the answer? What can the lay person do to improve the sound quality?
What you have just said is:
I like to learn about cars. I am just a lay person.
Just tell me god damn it how to get more air into my NA engine.
Dont tell me about fuel pump, engine management and exhaust, I know enough to tell you that those things dont matter.
What can a lay person do to improve power in an XK.

Your error is assuming that a lay person can do something quick and dirty.
If that was the case millions before you would have figured it out.
And you could rightfully insult qualified folks as snake-oil-salesman.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
What you have just said is:
I like to learn about cars. I am just a lay person.
Just tell me god damn it how to get more air into my NA engine.
Dont tell me about fuel pump, engine management and exhaust, I know enough to tell you that those things dont matter.
What can a lay person do to improve power in an XK.

Your error is assuming that a lay person can do something quick and dirty.
If that was the case millions before you would have figured it out.
And you could rightfully insult qualified folks as snake-oil-salesman.
So, now I've either offended you and you won't share with the group or you really are just full of crap...

I'll lay money that a simple speaker swap will bring balance to the sound quality in our cars. So far you've added nothing, absolutely nothing of value to the conversation. High end audio indeed...
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:39 AM
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To those who are frustrated- realize why you are.

In the old days anybody and everybody could simply change the radio or the speakers and get superb sound.

Even without changing the stock stereo- you could get superb sound.

So why the hell cant you now.

Understand that all the brightest minds in the industry have been working on this problem and unable get in.

Think about how many millions, Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood have lost not being able to sell head units to kids who love to change them. While the car industry has exploded, the car audio industry has been decimated. Then you will be understanding and supportive.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
I'll lay money that a simple speaker swap will bring balance to the sound quality in our cars.
High end audio indeed...
Yes those morons who actually sign the front of a check dont know anything.
Do it- and make millions.

BTW, those other morons have actually laid money. How much are you willing to put down. It better be at least $50
 

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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:46 AM
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So again, why can't we just find a speaker that will work to restore the balance? Kind of like off the shelf reading eye glasses with +50 or +100 mid range? I really haven't delved into it yet but assume the basic speakers in our car are pretty flat. It's a pity aftermarket speakers don't show response curves instead of sales pitches in their descriptions.

I don't expect we'll ever be able to go into the programming. Per the aftermarket, I'm pretty sure they are making plenty of money on being OEM suppliers.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranchero50
you really are just full of crap...
So far you've added nothing, absolutely nothing of value to the conversation. High end audio indeed...
If you missed it, other might have too.

In a very short time, we will be releasing a product that solves the fundamental problems. This product 'X' will unfortunately be for a more popular brand of cars. Will get one for Jaguars. Will help out Jaguar lovers.

Beyond that, significantly solve errors and problems with drivers in the Ftype and Xk as my measly contribution.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 12:58 PM
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What I hope for is for a product that can pull all 4 channels off MOST prior to the amp, and provide them as standard line outs. If that could be done along with built in software for equalization (think 20-20k calibration using pink noise to repair any DSP done in the head unit) then the world would open up for us.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2017 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CleverName
What I hope for is for a product that can pull all 4 channels off MOST prior to the amp, and provide them as standard line outs. If that could be done along with built in software for equalization (think 20-20k calibration using pink noise to repair any DSP done in the head unit) then the world would open up for us.
You are exactly right, and what the world is working on right now.
They are also working and and completed- significantly improved music, because part of the DSP is compensating for misgivings in the source.
One of the drivers is also very wrong on the XK.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 03:45 PM
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Queen and Country, Will any of the products that you and others are working on be available for my 2008 Portfolio with B&W in the upcoming 2018 year?
 
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