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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:25 AM
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I need to replace a rear wheel on my 2013 XKR. It had the 'portfolio' appearance package, so it came with polished Orona wheels (20" x 10" x 46mm on the rear), which were otherwise not stock on XKRs. I have found a polished 20" x 10" x 46mm rear Orona wheel online, that appears to be in excellent condition. It came off a 2017 XJ.

I am assuming it will fit, but I could well be missing something that'll make me regret not asking this question first: Is there any reason to think this wheel from a '17 XJ would NOT fit my 2013 XKR, given the headline specs match?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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Check the wheel stud pattern & offset match. The info will be on the inside of the wheel.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 12:19 PM
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The numbers on the inside of the wheel match - overall dimensions and the 46mm offset, which is why I'm assuming it's ok.

As far as I can tell from looking at a couple of wheel sites, the 17 XJ and 13 XKR had the same lug pattern/PCD of 5 x 108 (4.25").
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 02:51 PM
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I suspect that you found that wheel on eBay and haven't actually seen it or corresponded with the seller about it. You're buying a pig in a poke since you can't take it for a test drive and fraud abounds on the Internet, including eBay. What are that seller's ratings? I wouldn't buy it without more information.

I recommend that you write to the seller and get written answers to the following questions about this wheel:
1. Has it ever been damaged and refurbished?
2. Has it ever been welded?
3. Is it straight and does it run true, with no wobble?
4. Does it leak air?
5. Are there any visible hairline cracks?

Never pay in cash. Using a credit card provides protection since charges can be disputed.

Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
I suspect that you found that wheel on eBay and haven't actually seen it or corresponded with the seller about it. You're buying a pig in a poke since you can't take it for a test drive and fraud abounds on the Internet, including eBay. What are that seller's ratings? I wouldn't buy it without more information.

I recommend that you write to the seller and get written answers to the following questions about this wheel:
1. Has it ever been damaged and refurbished?
2. Has it ever been welded?
3. Is it straight and does it run true, with no wobble?
4. Does it leak air?
5. Are there any visible hairline cracks?

Never pay in cash. Using a credit card provides protection since charges can be disputed.

Good luck!
Thanks, Stuart.

I'm not in a rush, so did plan to ask a couple of questions before I proceed. I'm more at the stage of checking out my options and seeing what's available.

My instinct when looking at it is: get rid and replace, but maybe these kind of cracks are repaired safely every day and last for years? If I have time this week I might take it to a wheel shop to see what they say. It's a hairline crack.

Tire started losing 7-10 PSI a day and this ended up being the culprit.


 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 09:06 PM
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I just got a couple weeks ago a very similar crack in my front Nevis wheel, and the only one I can find in the country is $800 for one used. Dang right I'll have the cracked one repaired before I spend that much for a wheel that'll probably crack similarly in a few years.
I am now somewhat actively looking for a full set of aftermarket wheels in the actual sizes I want, but those will have to be semi-custom as nobody has in-stock wheels in the desired sizes and specs. That'll be a few grand, I'm sure, but then I'll get what I want.
In the mean time, wheel repair shops I'll be a-callin'.
No Silver State Classic for me until I get it all sorted. Ain't gonna do no 185 mph on a repaired wheel. 80 is fine for awhile though.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 04:17 AM
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If you take a look at the Jaguar parts list, the part numbers are the same, for example, for the standard finish: C2D7284

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/
 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rowlands
Thanks, Stuart.

I'm not in a rush, so did plan to ask a couple of questions before I proceed. I'm more at the stage of checking out my options and seeing what's available.

My instinct when looking at it is: get rid and replace, but maybe these kind of cracks are repaired safely every day and last for years? If I have time this week I might take it to a wheel shop to see what they say. It's a hairline crack.
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In the event you were not aware, a proper wheel refurbishment shop can repair that crack with a welding job. And if welded properly, just as strong as the original state if the wheel.

I had one wheel “fixed” on the xjr.. if memory serves it was about $300 for the rounding, welding, balancing and painting.

Cheers.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rowlands
Thanks, Stuart.

I'm not in a rush, so did plan to ask a couple of questions before I proceed. I'm more at the stage of checking out my options and seeing what's available.

My instinct when looking at it is: get rid and replace, but maybe these kind of cracks are repaired safely every day and last for years? If I have time this week I might take it to a wheel shop to see what they say. It's a hairline crack.

Tire started losing 7-10 PSI a day and this ended up being the culprit.
I cracked a Selena wheel and had it repaired...also sent a front wheel at same time to have a 'matched' color. The repaired wheel looks perfect from the front. Both wheels were straightened and powder coated. Cost was $200 @. That was one year and 10k miles ago. No issues so far.






wj
 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 10:28 AM
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Yes, it will fit. But as advised above, be sure it's a good wheel.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wymjym
I cracked a Selena wheel and had it repaired...also sent a front wheel at same time to have a 'matched' color. The repaired wheel looks perfect from the front. Both wheels were straightened and powder coated. Cost was $200 @. That was one year and 10k miles ago. No issues so far.






wj
The wheels in the above photo are Senta, not Selena. Selena wheels were exclusive to the 4.2L 2009 Jaguar XKR Portfolio models and became optional on the 5.0L models. The 5.0L Selena wheels don't fit the 4.2L models because the rear offsets are different due to the e-Diff on 5.0L models.

These wheels are Selena:

 
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Old Dec 2, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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I stand corrected, they are still pretty.and were repaired.
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Old Dec 3, 2024 | 07:40 AM
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Cosmetic alloy rim repairs (curb rash) usually do not affect structural integrity and are safe, unless the bead is affected. But any wheel repair that requires welding will eventually fail again at or near the weld since welding reduces structural integrity. Google it and ask a metallurgist.

Don't put your life or the lives of your passengers at risk. Tell your insurance company in writing that they are putting you in harm's way with a remanufactured wheel and that you will hold them liable for any property damage or personal injury when that wheel fails. They'll give you a brand-new OEM wheel faster than you can whistle "Dixie".

Bottom Line: You can't tell if a repaired wheel is safe to drive on simply by looking at it, since welded areas can be made to look like new after they've been sanded and repainted. The final point is that a weld will never, ever be quite as strong as the original material. So why risk it? Better to be safe than sorry. Read this: Are Welded Wheels Safe

Because you might not be able to see the weld or know anything about the skill of the welder, I won't risk my life to save a few hundred bucks.
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20" wheels with low-profile tires are very prone to rim damage because those tires don't absorb enough of the impact from hitting a pothole and that remaining energy is transmitted to the rim, which causes it to bend or crack.

Your car, your money, and your life and the lives of others.

Stuart
 
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Old Dec 3, 2024 | 09:36 AM
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QUOTE "so it came with polished Orona wheels (20" x 10" x 46mm on the rear), which were otherwise not stock on XKRs. I have found a polished 20" x 10" x 46mm rear"

Diameter, width, and offset are the same as stated above. PCD of 5 x 108 and center bore of 63.4mm are the same, XJ or XK. They'll fit.
 
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